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Date:      Tue, 30 Mar 1999 17:13:27 -0600 (CST)
From:      Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>
To:        Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami <asami@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        dillon@apollo.backplane.com, obrien@NUXI.com, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/news/tin Makefile ports/news/tin/files md5
Message-ID:  <Pine.OSF.4.10.9903301704520.25113-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>
In-Reply-To: <199903302225.OAA41075@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>

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On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Satoshi - the Wraith - Asami wrote:

#  * From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
# 
#  *     There's an old axiom in computer science about things filling all
#  *     available space.  Believe me, bzip2 is not going to solve this sort
#  *     of problem.
# 
# I know about that, but that doesn't stop us from going to a more
# efficient compressing algorithm (assuming the speed/memory consumption
# problem is not too bad).
# 
# The savings are proportional to the total size of the collection, and
# that's a good 10% saved any day.

Here's something that I've been thinking about.  Now that I have
my Alpha box and am starting to put together a ports collection
for it, I was thinking about testing the waters with bzip2.  Since
nobody has a FreeBSD Alpha box with a port collection (at least
from bits that we provide) I should be able to work out the bugs
there.  Comments?

Another thing I thought of was building a release or two with bzip2
to guage the difference.  After having been a part of several release
cycles now (and given the current state of sysinstall) it is the lack
of room on the first CD that hurts us the most.  Now that we have
a two disk install, there should be room for both bzip2 and gzip
on the second disk.  All I need to do is find the time to play with
the release bits. :)

# On the other hand, I don't see much point in the "should we mark the
# gimp PS manual NO_CDROM" debate.  The amount saved is fixed, and the
# old axiom applies.
# 
# We already have Steve trimming things out as (un)necessary, you should
# just leave this stuff to him.  Setting it NO_CDROM is going to remove
# any possibility of it showing up for future releases even if we have
# enough space (hey Jordan, when are we going to that 10-CD set?)

After this weekend's journey, it looks like 6 would just about right
for a single release, but with the number of ports growing as quickly
as they are we'll be 6+ RSN.  I'd like to get to watch the show when
Jordan gets to explain how we really want 2.5 times the number of CDs
we have now. ;)

-steve



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