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Date:      Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:31:44 +0300
From:      Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
To:        Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Userland problems from kern.pts.enable=1
Message-ID:  <20070618133144.GQ2268@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
In-Reply-To: <1182171046.1253.10.camel@localhost>
References:  <20070617213948.GA50404@rot13.obsecurity.org> <1182171046.1253.10.camel@localhost>

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On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:50:46PM +0100, Tom Evans wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 17:39 -0400, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > When the kern.pts.enable sysctl is set to '1', pseudo-ttys are created
> > with device name /dev/pts/${NUMBER}.  With some kernel fixes from kib
> > this appears to now be stable and the kernel side is ready for a
> > possible change of default.  However, the new device naming confuses
> > some userland utilities.  For example:
> >=20
> > pointyhat# write simon
> > write: /dev/398: No such file or directory
> >=20
> > simon was logged in on /dev/pts/398.
> >=20
> > killall -t also fails to parse the new device format:
> >=20
> > bento# ps -t pts/187
> >   PID  TT  STAT      TIME COMMAND
> > 67734 187  Ss     0:00.04 /bin/csh
> > 72599 187  R+     0:00.00 ps -t pts/187
> > bento# killall -t pts/187
> > killall: stat(/dev/ttypts/187): No such file or directory
> >=20
> > It would also be useful if ps -t recognized a numeric argument as
> > magic and converted it to add the pts/.  It already appears to do the
> > converse when displaying the TTY, as you can see above.
> >=20
> > There are probably other utilities also affected.
> >=20
> > Kris
> >=20
>=20
> If no-one has already started working on these, I've had a look at a few
> of these utils and the changes look quite straightforward. I've been
> looking for something like this (simple enough for me to do, simple
> enough that a I can't ??$%^ it up too much) so I can contribute back to
> FreeBSD.=20
>=20
> So far, I'm looking at usr.bin/killall, bin/ps and usr.bin/write
>=20
Mentioned patches are at
http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/misc/destroy_dev_sched.10.patch

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