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To:        Paul Procacci <pprocacci@gmail.com>
Cc:        Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>, Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com>,  FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Seeking actual FreeBSD network expert for some freelance hours
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that is freeBSD spirit! keep up with this view on things, Paul.

=D1=81=D1=80, 30 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2024 =D0=B3., 02:37 Paul Procacci <ppr=
ocacci@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gm=
ail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Making some comments on this from the point of view as professional
> > freelancer (I am not qualified directly for the job posting unless you
> > count the fact I have made a cloud platform based on bhyve [but not
> > jails]):   Besides I have sensory issues with Zoom (one of the worst
> > implementations of streaming media in history).
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 4:50=E2=80=AFPM Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabaran=
a.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there!
> > >
> > > Looking for a FreeBSD network expert with experience in bridging, VNE=
T
> jails and bhyve networking as well as PF and optionally CARP. It's just a
> few hours and we cannot give you access to the servers. Basically it woul=
d
> be a Zoom-based consultancy by the hour where you help us solve some
> specific issues related to the technologies mentioned above.
> > >
> > > Conditions:
> > >
> > > Mutual NDA and simple contract.
> >
> > In any freelance marketplace like UpWork (formerly eLance) this would
> > be a red flag (having to sign a NDA before even being told in the most
> > general sense who the client is and what their goals are... surely
> > this would not violate anything that is legitimately NDA'able)
> >
> > > Actual experience and skills in:
> > >
> > > Bridging
> > > VNET Jails
> > > bhyve networking
> > > PF
> > > Optionally: CARP
> > >
> > > Spoken English Fluency
> > >
> > > We can pay via Wise, PayPal or bank Wire.
> >
> > Not using an escrow service is a true red flag.
> >
> > >
> > > Please refrain from applying if you don't have this specific skill
> set. If within the first hour we determine you do not possess the skills,
> the contract will be unilaterally terminated with no payment.
> >
> > Any work done conditionally is a complete and total red flag and
> > against the TOS of most job listing sites.
> >
> > In case you're curious here are the other red flags any professional
> > freelancer would look for:
> >
> > 1. Any promise of future work in return for a break on this job
> > 2. Any attempt to make you a co-founder instead of what really are (a
> > freelancer)
> > 3. Wants to pay or contact you off elance before the terms are agreed
> > on (against official elance policy)
> > 4. Ask for any sort of free work before escrow is put up
> > 5. Refuse to agree to our terms sheet (with any modifications needed
> > to address the unique intellectual property requirements of each
> > project)
> > 6. Complete inability to give a clear statement of what they want you t=
o
> do
> > 7. Any client who refuses to honor our no change in project scope term
> > 8. Demand for source code before escrow release
> > 9. Anyone who says that wants anyone from a certain geographic region
> > (usually ones well known for low pay) unless they are in that area and
> > require in person meetings
> > 10. Demands a NDA before even telling the 25 words or less description
> > of the project in general terms
> > 11. Asks to do payment outside of elance
> > 12. Anyone who does not want to use the private message board
> > exclusively (the only thing elance dispute resolution looks at [btw
> > they find for the client far too often IMO])
> > 13. Someone who has not even bothered to have elance verify their
> > credit card as being a valid form of payment to fund escrow with
> > 14. Anyone who asks you to use some bizarre key phrase in your bid as
> > a type of captcha
> >
> > --
> > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org
> >
>
> Red Flag this, red flag that ... blah blah blah.
> Mr. Imass's needed technical information is solved .. all free of
> charge oer zoom .... and now I have a new friend.
> He just owes me a beer.  ;)
>
> ~Paul
> --
> __________________
>
> :(){ :|:& };:
>
>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">that is freeBSD spirit! keep up with this view on things, Pa=
ul.</p>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=D1=81=
=D1=80, 30 =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=82. 2024 =D0=B3., 02:37 Paul Procacci &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:pprocacci@gmail.com">pprocacci@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 6:14=E2=80=AFPM Aryeh Fr=
iedman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aryeh.friedman@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">aryeh.friedman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Making some comments on this from the point of view as professional<br=
>
&gt; freelancer (I am not qualified directly for the job posting unless you=
<br>
&gt; count the fact I have made a cloud platform based on bhyve [but not<br=
>
&gt; jails]):=C2=A0 =C2=A0Besides I have sensory issues with Zoom (one of t=
he worst<br>
&gt; implementations of streaming media in history).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 4:50=E2=80=AFPM Alejandro Imass &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:aimass@yabarana.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">aimass@ya=
barana.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi there!<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Looking for a FreeBSD network expert with experience in bridging,=
 VNET jails and bhyve networking as well as PF and optionally CARP. It&#39;=
s just a few hours and we cannot give you access to the servers. Basically =
it would be a Zoom-based consultancy by the hour where you help us solve so=
me specific issues related to the technologies mentioned above.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Conditions:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Mutual NDA and simple contract.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In any freelance marketplace like UpWork (formerly eLance) this would<=
br>
&gt; be a red flag (having to sign a NDA before even being told in the most=
<br>
&gt; general sense who the client is and what their goals are... surely<br>
&gt; this would not violate anything that is legitimately NDA&#39;able)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Actual experience and skills in:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Bridging<br>
&gt; &gt; VNET Jails<br>
&gt; &gt; bhyve networking<br>
&gt; &gt; PF<br>
&gt; &gt; Optionally: CARP<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Spoken English Fluency<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; We can pay via Wise, PayPal or bank Wire.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Not using an escrow service is a true red flag.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Please refrain from applying if you don&#39;t have this specific =
skill set. If within the first hour we determine you do not possess the ski=
lls, the contract will be unilaterally terminated with no payment.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Any work done conditionally is a complete and total red flag and<br>
&gt; against the TOS of most job listing sites.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In case you&#39;re curious here are the other red flags any profession=
al<br>
&gt; freelancer would look for:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1. Any promise of future work in return for a break on this job<br>
&gt; 2. Any attempt to make you a co-founder instead of what really are (a<=
br>
&gt; freelancer)<br>
&gt; 3. Wants to pay or contact you off elance before the terms are agreed<=
br>
&gt; on (against official elance policy)<br>
&gt; 4. Ask for any sort of free work before escrow is put up<br>
&gt; 5. Refuse to agree to our terms sheet (with any modifications needed<b=
r>
&gt; to address the unique intellectual property requirements of each<br>
&gt; project)<br>
&gt; 6. Complete inability to give a clear statement of what they want you =
to do<br>
&gt; 7. Any client who refuses to honor our no change in project scope term=
<br>
&gt; 8. Demand for source code before escrow release<br>
&gt; 9. Anyone who says that wants anyone from a certain geographic region<=
br>
&gt; (usually ones well known for low pay) unless they are in that area and=
<br>
&gt; require in person meetings<br>
&gt; 10. Demands a NDA before even telling the 25 words or less description=
<br>
&gt; of the project in general terms<br>
&gt; 11. Asks to do payment outside of elance<br>
&gt; 12. Anyone who does not want to use the private message board<br>
&gt; exclusively (the only thing elance dispute resolution looks at [btw<br=
>
&gt; they find for the client far too often IMO])<br>
&gt; 13. Someone who has not even bothered to have elance verify their<br>
&gt; credit card as being a valid form of payment to fund escrow with<br>
&gt; 14. Anyone who asks you to use some bizarre key phrase in your bid as<=
br>
&gt; a type of captcha<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, <a href=3D"http://www.PetiteCloud.o=
rg" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.PetiteCloud.=
org</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
Red Flag this, red flag that ... blah blah blah.<br>
Mr. Imass&#39;s needed technical information is solved .. all free of<br>
charge oer zoom .... and now I have a new friend.<br>
He just owes me a beer.=C2=A0 ;)<br>
<br>
~Paul<br>
-- <br>
__________________<br>
<br>
:(){ :|:&amp; };:<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>

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