Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:50:54 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> To: Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net> Cc: sjg@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, marcel@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XML Output: libxo - provide single API to output TXT, XML, JSON and HTML Message-ID: <20140731205054.GT43962@funkthat.com> In-Reply-To: <201407311531.s6VFVbJn094888@idle.juniper.net> References: <94841.1406796243@critter.freebsd.dk> <201407311531.s6VFVbJn094888@idle.juniper.net>
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Phil Shafer wrote this message on Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:31 -0400: > Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > >The real question is how it will be perceived if we are *not* actively > >going UTF-8 by that time? > > And moving toward UTF-8 won't be simple. I just tossed a couple If we don't start, we won't ever move forward... > of file from http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/ into a > few apps that are supposed to support UTF-8 (emacs, vim, firefox) Why not nvi? :) I just tried out nvi w/ UTF-8-demo.txt, and was surprised that it worked well.. there are issues w/ combining characters, both stargate and Thai, but that's an issue w/ nvi escaping those characters instead of displaying them.. my terminal was Terminal.app from MacOSX... less and more appear to work, and handle the combining characters properly... vt works, but we need much better font support.. The default font is missing lots of math, linguistic, APL, georgian, Thai, Amharic, runes (though MacOS's font I'm using misses these too), Braille (this should be easy for anyone to add), and I believe Japanese... > and the results were underwhelming. Skimming the description of > xterm support for UTF-8 gives some appreciation for how complex > this crap is (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html#xterm). I must say, from my brief test, I'm surprised it worked as well as it did... :) -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."
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