Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:56:10 -0400 From: Matthew Hunt <mph@pobox.com> To: esr@thyrsus.com Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Open Source Products Message-ID: <19980413225610.36275@mph124.rh.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <19980413215647.37918@snark.thyrsus.com>; from Eric S. Raymond on Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 09:56:47PM -0400 References: <199804131719.LAA21122@narnia.plutotech.com> <35326353.4E30451B@xylan.com> <19980413201541.65522@snark.thyrsus.com> <3532AD36.2968F8B6@xylan.com> <19980413215647.37918@snark.thyrsus.com>
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On Mon, Apr 13, 1998 at 09:56:47PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > That's the key thing, IMO. The fact that the BSD crowd is split into > squabbling spinoff-group-of-the-week factions, while Linux looks I think that by making such references, you are doing BSD a disservice. Maybe that's your intent; I don't know. Perhaps the BSD "factions" used to be that way, but I don't think that's the case anymore. I came to FreeBSD from Linux just over a year ago, and I have tried to contribute my skills to the project. Most of my contributions have gone to the ports collection, but I have also submitted some PR's for the kernel, userspace, and documentation. I submit my PR's only to the FreeBSD GNATS system. Nevertheless, I've gotten comments or "thanks" emails from Theo de Raadt of OpenBSD, and I once looked at their CVS interface on the web, and found my changes imported. Likewise, I frequently see FreeBSD commit messages crediting OpenBSD. (I don't see much about NetBSD.) I don't see much squabbling (except some personality conflicts; some people don't like Jordan, some don't like Theo, etc.). I see three (or four, if you count BSDI) projects with different goals, but which do monitor each other's improvements and give credit where it's due. Maybe things were worse in the olden days. But I just don't see it now, and it disgusts me to hear the litany repeated as if it were a self-evident truth. I don't know why you think BSD is so disjoint, but Linux, without a uniform userland, is unified. -- Matthew Hunt <mph@pobox.com> * Stay close to the Vorlon. http://mph124.rh.psu.edu/~mph/pgp.key for PGP public key 0x67203349. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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