Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:38:42 -0400 From: "Brett G. Castleberry" <bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> To: "Pete Vanderburgh" <peterv@vma.verio.net> Cc: <newbies@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary - how to guides Message-ID: <002301be8c82$6308a2a0$6a21c992@s1o3q0> References: <19990406205551.QXQP5752963.mta2-rme@wocker> <020501be80ae$fd1aa800$8620c992@s1o3q0> <371A551F.B4FC1EFB@vma.verio.net>
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Sorry it's taken me a few days to reply. By "on top of Unix" I mean that I believe that the computer that processes data for all the local libraries using the Data Research Associates library automation system (our county library, the state library here in Tallahassee, and a number of others) runs Unix. I could be wrong, but when I mentioned this in an "Intro to Unix" class I took a few weeks ago, the instructor nodded sagely, as though I had divined the truth. I drive a bookmobile to rural stops, and I do my circulation functions using an off-line circulation program on a laptop equipped with a barcode reading wand. Back at the main library, I upload the files using Kermit, and when I started reading about Unix I recognized some commands that I use, such as "control-right bracket" to escape a process and get to a prompt. When I send the files, I am told that they are going to a Vax computer. Do you all see how clueless, what a reeking newbie, I am? I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got, that our menu-driven automation program is overlaid onto a basically Unix system.
Pete, were you a LS major? From your signature I take it that you are associated with an ISP now. I've gone back and forth about whether to change course from reference work to an IT emphasis, but I think I'm a bit long in the tooth (I'm 45) for that. Anyway, there are VAST quantities of information that will never be digitized, that will continue to be available
only on paper. Somebody's got to be able to find it. Ink gets in your blood. Actually, that could account for the appeal that command-line FreeBSD has for me - virtual ink!
Brett Castleberry
bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Vanderburgh
To: Brett G. Castleberry
Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: The FreeBSD Diary - how to guides
"Brett G. Castleberry" wrote:
How much is too much? Most of what I'm seeing on FreeBSD/ Questions is over
my head and almost discouraging.
Agreed!
I've been a bookman all my life, a
pressman, a bookseller, and for the last ten years, a librarian. When I
returned to school for a masters degree a couple of years ago, my program
was called "Library Science". Now it's called "Information Studies", and IT
students (along with their tuition fees) are pouring in, at this point
outnumbering LS students. Those of us who are dedicated to providing public
access to useful information are scrambling to learn how to find and use
digital resources. In addition, as I've become acquainted with unix I have
realized that our own library automation system operates on top of unix.
I am curious about what you mean exactly by 'on top of UNIX'. I too, am *quite* the newbie in regard to UNIX and FreeBSD.
I'm also curious to hear more, as I myself was a librarian; not professionally, but in college. From 1988-1993 I learned a wide variety of electronic resources used for reference and cataloguing (we had these new-fangled "CD-ROM"s. Oooh!).
And then, I graduated, just as the internet, in it's 'mainstream' form began to emerge. Very frustrating!
So, I want FreeBSD to play and learn with. Perhaps I can connect my
FreeBSD 486 to my Win98 box and learn about networking too. I sense in your
free OS project a spirit akin to that of the public librarian, and I salute
you.
That's how I understand it to. Freedom of information!
Brett Castleberry
bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Sorry it's taken me a few days
to reply. By "on top of Unix" I mean that I believe that the
computer that processes data for all the local libraries using the Data
Research Associates library automation system (our county library, the
state library here in Tallahassee, and a number of others) runs Unix. I
could be wrong, but when I mentioned this in an "Intro to Unix" class I took a
few weeks ago, the instructor nodded sagely, as though I had divined the
truth. I drive a bookmobile to rural stops, and I do my circulation
functions using an off-line circulation program on a laptop equipped with a
barcode reading wand. Back at the main library, I upload the files using
Kermit, and when I started reading about Unix I recognized some commands that I
use, such as "control-right bracket" to escape a process and get to a
prompt. When I send the files, I am told that they are going to a Vax
computer. Do you all see how clueless, what a reeking newbie, I
am? I could be wrong, but that's the impression I got, that our
menu-driven automation program is overlaid onto a basically Unix
system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Pete, were you a LS major?
From your signature I take it that you are associated with an ISP now.
I've gone back and forth about whether to change course from reference work to
an IT emphasis, but I think I'm a bit long in the tooth (I'm 45) for that.
Anyway, there are VAST quantities of information that will never be digitized,
that will continue to be available</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>only on paper. Somebody's got to
be able to find it. Ink gets in your blood. Actually, that could
account for the appeal that command-line FreeBSD has for me - virtual ink!
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brett Castleberry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:peterv@vma.verio.net" title=peterv@vma.verio.net>Pete
Vanderburgh</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu"
title=bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>Brett G. Castleberry</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:newbies@FreeBSD.ORG"
title=newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>newbies@FreeBSD.ORG</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 18, 1999 5:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The FreeBSD Diary - how to
guides</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>"Brett G. Castleberry" wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">How much is too much? Most of what I'm seeing
on FreeBSD/ Questions is over <BR>my head and almost
discouraging.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR>Agreed! <BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">I've been a bookman all my life, a <BR>pressman, a
bookseller, and for the last ten years, a librarian. When I
<BR>returned to school for a masters degree a couple of years ago, my
program <BR>was called "Library Science". Now it's called "Information
Studies", and IT <BR>students (along with their tuition fees) are pouring
in, at this point <BR>outnumbering LS students. Those of us who are
dedicated to providing public <BR>access to useful information are
scrambling to learn how to find and use <BR>digital resources. In
addition, as I've become acquainted with unix I have <BR>realized that our
own library automation system operates on top of unix.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR>I am curious about what you mean exactly by 'on top of UNIX'. I
too, am *quite* the newbie in regard to UNIX and FreeBSD.
<P>I'm also curious to hear more, as I myself was a librarian; not
professionally, but in college. From 1988-1993 I learned a wide
variety of electronic resources used for reference and cataloguing (we had
these new-fangled "CD-ROM"s. Oooh!).
<P>And then, I graduated, just as the internet, in it's 'mainstream' form
began to emerge. Very frustrating!
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <BR>So, I want FreeBSD to play and learn
with. Perhaps I can connect my <BR>FreeBSD 486 to my Win98 box
and learn about networking too. I sense in your <BR>free OS project a
spirit akin to that of the public librarian, and I salute
<BR>you.</BLOCKQUOTE>
<P><BR>That's how I understand it to. Freedom of information!
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <BR>Brett Castleberry
<BR>bcc9746@garnet.acns.fsu.edu
<P>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org <BR>with "unsubscribe
freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message</P></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>--
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