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Date:      Tue, 6 Jul 1999 11:47:12 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Soren Schmidt <sos@freebsd.dk>
To:        marcel@scc.nl (Marcel Moolenaar)
Cc:        emulation@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FYI: Linux emulation: what, how, when, why, who, where
Message-ID:  <199907060947.LAA57490@freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <3781CD6A.B221831E@scc.nl> from Marcel Moolenaar at "Jul 6, 1999 11:33:30 am"

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It seems Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I hereby give you all an outline of what I'm planning to do, why am doing
> it, how I intend to get away with it, when it's important to get it done
> and last but not least, where I'm planning to hide after I've done it :-)

Sounds fine with me, I just miss the info on where you would be hiding :)

-Søren

> 
> I've now made 2 changes:
> A) ELF loader so that dynamicly linked Linux binaries can be used in a
>    chroot'd environment, with /compat/linux as the new root, and
> B) the uname syscall. It now returns "Linux" as the OS name.
> 
> These two changes are the basis for:
> C) importing the new linux_lib replacement, which I inted to call
>    linux-base-5.2 because 1) it not only contains libs 2) it's a
>    subset of a RH base installation and 3) The RH release is 5.2.
> 
> A is important for C because I intend to use the RPM port, which is a
> FreeBSD native binary, and I need the --root option which results in a
> chroot.
> 
> B is important for C, because it enables me to use the Linux native
> RPM (which gets installed in the process) to do installations.
> 
> Let FRPM be the FreeBSD native RPM with the chroot issue, and
> Let LRPM be the Linux native RPM with the uname issue.
> 
> After C comes:
> D) import of the linux_devel replacement, which I intend to call
>    linux-devel-5.2. Don't ask why :-)
> 
> Having both A and B has the advantage of C being setup so that D can
> be installed by FRPM and/or LRPM.
> 
> Using FRPM to install D has the disadvantage that C must include
> enough to support RPM post-install scripts in a chroot's env. This
> include /tmp, /dev/null, /var/tmp and so on. This breaks lots of
> cases where Linux binaries use FreeBSD binaries and passing them
> filenames (such as printing from a Linux Netscape).
> 
> Using LRPM to install D has no drawbacks that I can think of right
> now and is the rpm by choice for the moment.
> 
> So, why A and FRPM, I hear you say?
> 
> Simply because FRPM is the one that is in everybodies PATH and just
> entering something like rpm -i foobar.rpm to add a new package is what
> I like to accomplish. And since FRPM is a port, I can't just deinstall
> it and make a link to LRPM somewhere in the PATH. Why not? Because I
> need FRPM for the deinstall of C and I can't force a user to not use
> the RPM port. There's another reason, but that's for later.
> 
> So, up to this point, I have imported the new ports, the next step is
> E) Update any linux dependent ports so that they work with the new
>    ports. This only involves dependencies for most ports, but it is
>    possible that some ports can be changed to use rpm distfiles and
>    let these get installed by using eith FRPM or LRPM. LRPM by
>    default for now.
> 
> After E follows F, but it's not determined what F should be. There's a
> lot that can be done...
> 
> [end of part 1]
> 
> -- 
> Marcel Moolenaar                                  mailto:marcel@scc.nl
> SCC Internetworking & Databases                     http://www.scc.nl/
> Amsterdam, The Netherlands                         tel: +31 20 4200655
> 
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