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Date:      Thu, 7 Dec 2017 09:32:32 +0100
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, gjb@freebsd.org, "Pokala, Ravi" <rpokala@panasas.com>, ghapiro@freebsd.org, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org>, "cem@freebsd.org" <cem@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Sendmail deprecation ?
Message-ID:  <20171207083232.x4iqrli74wgygcry@ivaldir.net>
In-Reply-To: <201712070348.vB73mesl095194@slippy.cwsent.com>
References:  <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> <201712070251.vB72p58k054508@slippy.cwsent.com> <201712070348.vB73mesl095194@slippy.cwsent.com>

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On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 07:48:40PM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <201712070251.vB72p58k054508@slippy.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert=
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> writes:
> > In message <B16088FF-FDE1-4EDF-AB76-D60C2E5F3E8F@panasas.com>, "Pokala,=
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> > Ravi" w
> > rites:
> > > So less "no dma(8)", and more "no default MTA at all; make them selec=
t one"
> > ?
> >
> > Yes.
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> Thinking about this further and softening my position a little, I'd be=20
> satisfied with a knob to not build dma in base at all. (Though the desire=
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> to remove bloat I prefer not to replace when something is removed.)

There is a knob already not to build it WITHOUT_DMAGENT
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> Upline sendmail hasn't been updated for a a year and almost eight months.=
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> (I had misgivings of the sale.) Having said that, I think sendmail's time=
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> has come however I'm not convinced replacing it with another default MTA =
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> the solution. A stub like pkg that could install a package, providing the=
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> user with a list to choose from, possibly timing out after a short period=
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> of time to install the dma pkg (or port) makes the most sense to me and=
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> should be a good compromise for all.
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> As gjb@ has been working toward packaged base, would it not be a good tim=
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> for the MTA replacement project to consider relying on dma ports/packages?
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> Ports/packages are just as much FreeBSD as base is.
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> Cheers,
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  http://www.FreeBSD.org
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> 	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
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