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Date:      Wed, 23 May 2018 11:48:38 +0200
From:      Philip Homburg <pch-fbsd-1@u-1.phicoh.com>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
Cc:        "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org>, "A. Wilcox" <AWilcox@wilcox-tech.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver 
Message-ID:  <m1fLQNs-0000G0C@stereo.hq.phicoh.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 May 2018 15:12:39 -0700 (PDT) ." <201805222212.w4MMCdA9031937@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> 

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>Also as the Moore's law curve flattens expect the life of these
>older, but not so old, machines to live quiet some time.  I
>believe we are talking sandy bridge and earlier?  If that is
>corret Sandy bridge is still a very viable system.

I noticed this lack of love for older systems recently. 

I wanted to use an older Dell server to test the 11.2 BETAs and RCs.

Turns out, you can't install FreeBSD using a USB stick image because the
BIOS only support MBR. No idea why MBR support was dropped for the USB images.

In the end I had to find a CD burner, and after a couple of tries managed to
install from CD.

After that, my ansible playbooks started failing because /boot/loader.conf 
is absent if you boot from zfs in combination with MBR.

Pity. This older server hardware is great for trying out new releases, play 
with zfs, etc.


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