Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:09:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Best kind of hard drive for heavy use? Message-ID: <33814.128.135.52.6.1473865794.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <20160914062154.7cbea049@archlinux.localdomain> References: <42.56.05022.D3A48D75@dnvrco-oedge02> <20160913213649.3a3f26b2@archlinux.localdomain> <0d1b8dba-3292-9991-ea7d-f160c25090c8@netfence.it> <20160914051806.297c0c3f@archlinux.localdomain> <20160914062154.7cbea049@archlinux.localdomain>
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On Tue, September 13, 2016 11:21 pm, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 05:18:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions > wrote: >>On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 22:38:55 +0200, Andrea Venturoli wrote: >>>(Speaking of WD Green, not WD in general) it is true, unless you run >>>their utility (DOS only!) which disables this "feature". >>>However the drives will tend to fail in a short time all the same. >> >>That perhaps was true for some older drives, that spin down after a few >>seconds, but it anyway required something to wake up the drives again. >>Howvere, it's untrue for those drives that are just a few years old. My >>spins down after 30 minutes, and stays a sleep , if no evil software >>touches it. I never had to use a tool, which anyway wouldn't have >>worked, because it's an USB device. >> >>>> IOW the green WD drives do exactly what is required by the EU >>>> Regulation >>> >>>??? >> >>By an EU Regulation all external drives must go to sleep after a while. >> >>>> just some software is bad programmed. Don't use this >>>> software. nOt the drives, the software is bad. >>> >>>Don't use the drives: no point in spinning up and down; besides, as I >>>said, I had 4 of them and even if I disabled this brain damage, they >>>all died within one year. >> >>I already explained why this happened. The spins for your drive might >>not have happened within seconds after using this utility, but as for >>my drive, when using bad software, what I usually don't do, every 30 >>minutes or something around this. I bought my WD green drive 2013-02-27 >>and never had an issue, IOW it's nearly 4 years old. As already pointed >>out, I don't use gvfs, smartd and similar software that touches the >>drives and enforce a spin up, directly after the drives goes asleep. >> >>You spread FUD about WD drives. > > Sure, if a green drive is unwanted, nobody should buy a green drive. Yes, nobody should. Still, they do, and I've seen people attempting to use these in servers and hardware RAIDs (with big failures). Alas, consumer market is driven by ignorant customers (which are vast majority), hooked by advertisements, and the attempt of competing vendors to save on production cost. This is two-fold thing: competition is good, forces to develop and manufacture better things, and competition is bad, forces manufacture poorer products as result of attempt to safe on production. The ugly results of that are: fake RAID chips (LSI, 3ware, Areca _never_ made such), "shared" memory video cards,... you can continue the list. Valeri > However, assuming somebody should have bought one by accident, then > simply let a script access it, before it spins down. If the drives goes > to sleep at around 30 minutes, "touch" the drive every 28 minutes. > > Assuming it should be ok, that the drive goes to sleep, remove gvfs, > don't use KDE, smard etc., then the drive stays asleep. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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