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Date:      Mon, 04 Jan 1999 01:30:23 -0800
From:      David Greenman <dg@root.com>
To:        sthaug@nethelp.no
Cc:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 3.0-19981226-SNAP/src/ssys.ac is corrupt 
Message-ID:  <199901040930.BAA23794@implode.root.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:04:51 %2B0100." <24748.915440691@verdi.nethelp.no> 

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>Maybe it should be investigated more closely. I see the same problem
>from three different hosts here in Norway, connected via two different
>ISPs and using very different paths:
>
>1. From hegre.uninett.no:
>
>traceroute to usw2.freebsd.org (209.180.6.226), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1  unit-gw.unit.no (129.241.1.2)  2.010 ms  3.109 ms  1.165 ms
> 2  trdS-gw (129.241.181.15)  1.670 ms  5.680 ms  1.326 ms
> 3  osloS-gw (128.39.46.1)  8.051 ms  8.014 ms  9.111 ms
> 4  no-gw2.nordu.net (128.39.2.1)  9.539 ms  8.289 ms  8.386 ms
> 5  sw-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.149)  19.024 ms  18.836 ms  19.853 ms
> 6  us-gw.nordu.net (193.10.252.138)  116.364 ms  118.197 ms  117.190 ms
> 7  gin-nyy-core1.Teleglobe.net (207.45.202.17)  117.310 ms  118.283 ms  117.313 ms
> 8  gin-nyy-bb1.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.170)  117.740 ms  119.055 ms  120.379 ms
> 9  Serial1-0-1.GW2.NYC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.5.217)  120.275 ms Serial0-1-0.GW2.NYC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.4.165)  119.525 ms Serial1-0-1.GW2.NYC2.ALTER.NET (157.130.5.217)  118.513 ms
>10  144.ATM2-0.XR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.150)  122.257 ms  118.006 ms  119.339 ms
>11  194.ATM3-0.TR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.178.198)  119.394 ms  118.765 ms  121.182 ms
>12  104.ATM7-0.TR2.CHI4.ALTER.NET (146.188.136.153)  141.189 ms  141.879 ms  140.252 ms
>13  198.ATM6-0.XR2.CHI6.ALTER.NET (146.188.209.1)  141.568 ms  141.105 ms  140.681 ms
>14  190.ATM8-0-0.GW2.MSP1.ALTER.NET (146.188.209.125)  154.812 ms  154.971 ms  155.309 ms
>15  uswmsp-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.96.166)  149.941 ms  149.431 ms  150.794 ms
>16  207.225.159.220 (207.225.159.220)  150.013 ms  149.056 ms  148.990 ms
>17  usw2.freebsd.org (209.180.6.226)  150.841 ms  149.249 ms  151.275 ms
>
>2. From newsfeed1.telia.no:
>
>traceroute to usw2.freebsd.org (209.180.6.226), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> 1  194.19.1.49 (194.19.1.49)  0.963 ms  0.854 ms  0.834 ms
> 2  194.19.1.94 (194.19.1.94)  1.441 ms  1.665 ms  1.308 ms
> 3  194.19.1.146 (194.19.1.146)  19.590 ms  20.661 ms  19.916 ms
> 4  apv-c2-fddi5-0-core.stockholm.telia.net (194.22.194.253)  15.771 ms  14.808 ms  14.310 ms
> 5  apv-i1-feth4-0-0-ix.stockholm.telia.net (195.67.232.8)  14.443 ms  16.892 ms  15.514 ms
> 6  ny-i1-pos4-0-0-int-newyork.telia.net (194.17.0.250)  111.639 ms  110.964 ms  110.338 ms
> 7  209.95.130.138 (209.95.130.138)  112.581 ms  113.056 ms  111.801 ms
> 8  MAE-East-hssi2-0-int.vienna.telia.net (209.95.128.37)  119.952 ms  118.003 ms  117.990 ms
> 9  maeeast2.bbnplanet.net (198.32.186.2)  131.367 ms  123.608 ms  127.574 ms
>10  p2-2.vienna1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.93)  123.232 ms  117.797 ms  120.134 ms
>11  p3-1.nyc4-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.130)  120.709 ms  127.382 ms  121.752 ms
>12  p1-0.nyc4-nbr3.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.26)  123.863 ms  124.764 ms  123.996 ms
>13  p2-1.chicago1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.3.121)  146.194 ms  144.213 ms  140.665 ms
>14  p10-0-0.chicago1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.89)  150.874 ms  139.794 ms  138.179 ms
>15  h1-0.minneapol1-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.2.18)  151.672 ms  150.914 ms  151.956 ms
>16  h1-0.uswest-mn.bbnplanet.net (4.0.246.254)  154.703 ms  148.461 ms  148.034 ms
>17  207.225.159.220 (207.225.159.220)  149.299 ms  154.605 ms  151.377 ms
>18  usw2.freebsd.org (209.180.6.226)  167.212 ms  156.491 ms *
>
>The only points in common for these two traceroutes are usw2.freebsd.org,
>and the router at 207.225.159.220. That should narrow the field
>sufficiently that it's possible to investigate. It's the same file I'm

   It's not the inbound path that needs to be analyzed - it's the outbound
path. Someone on the usw2 machine will need to do traces to your different
IPs and see what is common. I'll guess that a lot more is common than just
the machine and one router.

-DG

David Greenman
Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

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