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Date:      Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:53:36 +0100
From:      Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
To:        Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
Cc:        Nick Rogness <nick@rogness.net>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Driver help
Message-ID:  <20011031195336.F8065@freebie.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110311034370.26072-100000@beppo>; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:37:47AM -0800
References:  <20011031193137.C8065@freebie.xs4all.nl> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110311034370.26072-100000@beppo>

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On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 10:37:47AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> "dumb" is relative and fungible.

Sure..

> It's a tradeoff between doing the connection management in firmware (as with
> the QLogic) or in the Kernel (as with Tachyon products mostly). It depends on
> whom you believe ultimately does a better job.

Well, I generally would like to put my money on the firmware. This assumes
(as always..) good firmware.

> Doing it in firmware allows the driver writer to manage the ULP stuff a lot
> better because you're not so distracted by the low level ruckus.

<nod>

> Doing it in the kernel allows you to avoid all those nagging and persistent
> questions of "why the hell did the f/w do/say/barf&&turn-left-against-a-red
> *that*?"

But it tends to produce horrible drivers if you are not very careful.
I remember a WD33C93 driver here.. <shiver>

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 09:49:19AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote:
> > 
> > That is probably what we call the Jaguar in-house. It is (IIRC) a
> > dumb adapter, there is a Tachyon on it for sure.
> > 
> > Wilko
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