Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:02:48 +0300 From: "Alaksiej C" <ac@belngo.info> To: "Murray Stokely" <murray@stokely.org> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In Message-ID: <5709ce310806051702i7539e6a7wf103e37012ff9d23@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> References: <B84E27D0BD28B558F9F4DA7F@ganymede.hub.org> <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com>
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IMHO, you are partly right. In regard of FreeBSD at all, right now, those numbers are misleading (it's not possible to use it for any research) and unimpressive (it's not possible to use it for PR). Yet, for the guys from PC-BSD team it is already useful. Their users quantity reflected by bsdstats should be almost correct. And it has some potential. If bsdstats will become more usual and numbers will grow, than *probably* it would be enough for some advertising, at least in the following form: Accordingly to bsdstats number of FreeBSD users has grown by 12%, blah-blah... And (let's dream :) ) some social thing could be incorporated in it, like voluntary registration in a global db, so you would be able to be connected by/connect to ppl, who runs FreeBSD in your location. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Murray Stokely <murray@stokely.org> wrote: > Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small > fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that > number really give you? The number of people using sysinstall that > choose to participate in this program? Somewhat interesting I guess, > but that number is very different from the number of computers running > FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. > > The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think > misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to > champion. > > - Murray > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C <ac@belngo.info> wrote: > > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. > > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of > > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> > wrote: > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> > Hash: SHA1 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, > >> with a > >> > break down as follows: > >> > > >> > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > >> > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > >> > DesktopBSD 2 662 hosts > >> > NetBSD 108 hosts > >> > MirBSD 68 hosts > >> > OpenBSD 59 hosts > >> > DragonFly 27 hosts > >> > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > >> > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > >> > > >> > >> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the > >> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's > >> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the > >> other participants (6 more now) are:-) > >> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > >> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > >> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > >> that there are FreeBSD? > >> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > >> be submitted. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > >> Nairobi,KE > >> +254733744121/+254722743223 > >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >> > >> "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > >> --from a /. post > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > >> " > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >
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