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Date:      Thu, 05 Sep 2024 19:16:26 +0000
From:      Jonathan Vasquez <jon@xyinn.org>
To:        "emaste@freebsd.org" <emaste@freebsd.org>, "markj@freebsd.org" <markj@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: removing the agp(4) driver
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I suppose removing this architecture would be in line with FreeBSD's recent=
ly stated goals of removing 32 bit x86 support, and I suppose there would b=
e other architectures that would slowly be deprecated and removed.

Jonathan Vasquez
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-------- Original Message --------
On 9/5/24 12:34, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote:

>  On Thu, 5 Sept 2024 at 09:43, Mark Johnston <markj@freebsd.org> wrote:
>  >
>  > I'd like to propose removing the agp(4) driver in FreeBSD 15.0.
> =20
>  It looks like there are some recent NYC*BUG dmesgd submissions showing
>  currently supported versions of FreeBSD running on agp hardware. Most
>  are i386 but there's at least one amd64 case.
> =20
>  Despite that I think it makes sense to remove agp for FreeBSD 15. The
>  hardware was already being phased out of mainstream systems two
>  decades ago and is now obsolete. I don't imagine the development
>  effort to move the driver out from Giant is worth the cost and folks
>  with old hardware who need agp graphics can continue to use FreeBSD
>  14.x. It's supported through 2028.
> =20
>  



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