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Date:      Tue, 2 May 2000 17:33:34 -0500 (EST)
From:      Aaron Jackson <jackson@msrce.howard.edu>
To:        Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc>
Cc:        FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Startup FreeBSD ISP host.
Message-ID:  <200005022233.RAA17591@MushMouth.AaronJackson.com>
In-Reply-To: <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc>
References:  <390F50E7.507A67CE@smartsoft.cc>

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Sounds like they are riping you off for the frame 
relay.  Check out:

http://www.bellatlantic.com/smallbiz/prodserv/frs.htm

Also, the Router.  You could use a CSU/DSU card ($800 
US), depending on how mission critical this set up is. 
What you want is not a hard thing to do.  The only 
question, is do you really want to run everything from 
one box?

Quoting Jan Knepper <jan@smartsoft.cc>:

> Hi,
> 
> I am kinda a newbie here so here come my question(s):
> 
> I am thinking hard about setting up a FreeBSD machine 
as dedicated host for
> e-mail and WWW. I have been talking to Bell Atlantic 
about this and they
> send me
> an offer at follows:
> 
> 1.    Cisco 2620 Router for $ 2,978.00
> I do realize that this is more than it would be to 
buy this thing somewhere
> else, but configuration (I do not know how much I 
need this) is included.
> 
> 2.    Monthly recurring charge of $887.25 for 256K 
Frame Relay.
> 
> 3.    Some kind of security I do not think I really 
need.
> 
> I have no idea where this offer stands. Nor do I know 
if this is really the
> best
> thing to do. I hope somebody on this list has a lot 
of experience with this
> and
> give me some valuable advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Simply speaking what I want is this:
> 
> 1.    Intel Pentium based FreeBSD 4.0 Box with Apache.
> 2.    Dedicated connection, minimal 128K, but 
preferable 256K or higher to
> the
> internet. I understand that this is done using an 
Ethernet card in the box
> and a
> router connected to the Ethernet card.
> 3.    Host at least 3, but probably up to 10 domains 
on the box. I
> understood
> that Apache is able to do this. All the domains 
already exists, just would
> have
> to change their IP addresses I guess.
> 4.    Attach the box to our local PC network using a 
second Ethernet card
> in the
> box and a 10/100 TX hub.
> 5.    Use the box for incoming and outgoing e-mail 
for the several domains.
> 6.    Use the box as a gateway to serve the web.
> 
> Why do I concider this?
> Right now we have a couple of domain's hosted with 
different virtual host
> providers. Monthly charges vary between $45 to $85.
> We have 2 dialin ISDN-2 providers, 1 is backup, Each 
$35/month.
> ISDN-2 phone line with an access plan which we 
usually just do not make.
> About
> $120/month
> 
> The total costs for Internet access, e-mail and 
hosting are somewhere
> between
> $400 and $500 per month with all kinds of 
restrictions. Virtual hosts
> usually
> can not store more than 40 Mb, some have 60 Mb, but 
it's usually rather
> limited.
> The only scripting allowed is PERL. No C or C++. FTP 
is a problem. etc.
> etc.
> etc.
> 
> I guess I just would be a lot happier if I could run 
my own FreeBSD host,
> with
> all the sites and a few other things upto and 
unlimited boundary.
> 
> Any ideas? Comments? Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks!
> Jan Knepper

"You don't know what you don't know until you know that
you don't know it." -- Me


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