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Date:      Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:10:06 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>, trevor@jpj.net (Trevor Johnson), freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Stallman now claims authorship of Linux
Message-ID:  <15071.17950.439066.927510@guru.mired.org>
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Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> types:
> At 01:15 PM 4/19/2001, Mike Meyer wrote:
> 
> >> D) Being a paid support flunky for the software.
> >> 
> >> E) Being a wage-slave for improvements to the software.
> >> 
> >> F) Being paid a small amount for the initial developement
> >>    as a work for hire for the benefit of the GPL, such
> >>    that your wages need to be arbitrarily low, since your
> >>    wages can not be amortized.
> >> 
> >> The GPL thus promotes amateurs in place of trained engineers,
> >> unless you are willing to work until you die, and never be
> >> able to retire as a result of rewards for your efforts.
> >
> >First, this means the GPL has the same effect as commercial software.
> 
> Not true. Commercial software does not destroy markets or reduce
> programmers to the status of wage slave.

Try contracting for MicroSoft.

> >Second, the working conditions you described apply to the vast
> >majority of people in the US. Since many of them do manage to retire
> >as a result of the rewards of their efforts, I'd say your final
> >conclusion is false.
> That is because, in other fields of endeavor, they can build
> capital. One of the purposes of the GPL is to prevent the
> creation of intellectual property as capital -- at least by
> programmers. (The FSF, on the other hand, hoards intellectual
> property; that's why it requires that all contributors to
> sign their code over, lock, stock, and barrel. Not a bad
> arrangement: the FSF gets richer and the programmers get
> poorer.)

You build capital as a programmer under conditions D, E and F the
exact same way you do in all those other fields, working under those
conditions.

	<mike
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