Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org> Cc: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sysutils/screen-ncurses port Message-ID: <202004301544.03UFiUCU014600@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <20200430130449.cwsf3x42o6w67gor@ivaldir.net>
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> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 05:56:54AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > In message <20200430075337.3wdzglshhorcd2qn@ivaldir.net>, Baptiste
> > Daroussin wr
> > ites:
> > >
> > >
> > > --vwrr5drfobpkyvop
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> > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:41:46AM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > > > Would people be open to the idea of a sysutils/screen-ncurses port that=
> > > =20
> > > > depends on devel/ncurses instead of ncureses in base? The reason for this=
> > > =20
> > > > is there are screen.* terminfo entries in devel/ncurses that don't exist =
> > > in=20
> > > > termcap(5). People who want that extra functionality would be advised to=
> > > =20
> > > > install the alternative pkg or build the sysutils/screen port with the=20
> > > > appropriate option.
> > > >=20
> > > > Or, simply change the default from whatever ncurses is available to alway=
> > > s=20
> > > > install devel/ncurses. People could always select one of the other option=
> > > s.=20
> > > > Personally, I'm not enamoured with this approach.
> > >
> > > I think it is a terrible idea, and we should fix the initial problem instea=
> > > d of
> > > workarounding it.
> > >
> > > 1/ why those are not in our termcap(5) ? they should be added if they are
> > > missing. and MFC asap (prior 11.4 and 12.2 would be nice)
> >
> > I came to this conclusion last night after sending this email thread oud
> > and will test it some time today.
> >
> > >
> > > 2/ we should allow our base ncurses to get informations from newer termcap(=
> > > 5) if
> > > needed.
> > > So far the default TERMCAP is
> > > ${HOME}/.termcap{,.db}:/etc/termcap{,.db}:/usr/share/misc/termcap{,.db}
> > >
> > > First the user can be advise to point configure the $home/.termcap this is =
> > > for
> > > quick now.
>
> that is in your scope via a pkg-message :D
>
> > >
> > > Second for later futur proof mechanism we could modify our termcap reader (=
> > > we
> > > use our own, not the one in provided by ncurses). to be able to fetch termc=
> > > ap
> > > capabilities from /usr/local/share/misc/termcap/*.conf for example
> > >
> > > This way ports with random termcap info to add would be able to do it witho=
> > > ut
> > > the requirement to wait for a commit in base and a MFC.
> >
> > This is probably outside of my scope at the moment but, yes, agreed.
> >
> I will then.
> I added that to my TODO
Thank you Bapt, I know a visually impared person that is battling in
this space often that this should help to reduce the pain level a
fair bit.
>
> Bestr regards,
> Bapt
--
Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
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