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Date:      Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:07:59 +0200 (SAT)
From:      Robert Nordier <rnordier@nordier.com>
To:        freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Help!  Recovering from a ELF kernel moveover that didn't work!!
Message-ID:  <199811151508.RAA24444@ceia.nordier.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811141522440.6244-100000@smarter.than.nu> from "Brian W. Buchanan" at "Nov 14, 98 03:25:09 pm"

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Brian W. Buchanan wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Peter Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Then I did the following: "disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 da0a"
> > (da0a is my / slice).
> > 
> > Now my system just reboots when I try to boot FreeBSD..
> 
> Your system is like mine (and those of several others), which doesn't like
> the new bootblocks.  Boot from a FreeBSD floppy and do
> "0:wd(0,a)/boot/loader" and the boot prompt, then "disklabel -B da0a" as
> root to reinstall the old boot blocks.  You can put "/boot/loader" in
> boot.config to use the new bootloader until the new bootblocks are fixed.

Just as a general comment (not aimed at anyone in particular):

If someone is having a problem with some part of -current that's
being actively developed, the best plan is to find out which FreeBSD
developer is involved, and send e-mail directly to him, in which
you describe (in as much detail as possible) just what is going
wrong.

If you believe there is a problem with the new boot blocks, for
example, I'd be interested in getting mail which includes:

    o  The source revisions you are using [ident(1)]

    o  Drive, slice, and partition details [dmesg(8), fdisk(8),
       disklabel(8)]

    o  Copies of the master boot record and slice boot sector
       [dd(1) and hexdump(1)]

    o  A detailed description of exactly what happens (if the
       machine reboots, is a diagnostic or register dump displayed?
       At what stage do you think things are going wrong?  Does
       the same thing happen if you boot from a floppy disk?  from
       a floppy disk in a different PC? etc.)

If all this seems too much like hard work, at least filing a PR
(or adding a "me too", with some level of detail, to an existing
PR) is likely to get the problem looked at.

Just mentioning the problem on -current, making vague or oblique
references to it, or keeping quiet about it in the hope that someone
else will eventually get around to doing something: are all pretty
effective strategies for keeping bugs around and problems ignored.

To a great extent, maintaining and even improving the quality of
FreeBSD is something that all -current users (whether active FreeBSD
developers or not) can take responsibility for.

-- 
Robert Nordier

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