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Date:      Fri, 01 Feb 2019 07:24:19 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
To:        Torsten Zuehlsdorff <freebsd@toco-domains.de>
Cc:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, Adam Weinberger <adamw@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r491810 - in head/editors/vim: . files
Message-ID:  <201902011524.x11FOJpR013828@slippy.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Torsten Zuehlsdorff <freebsd@toco-domains.de> of "Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:50:33 %2B0100." <3ca96b45-44d9-34b4-b48e-b49c1f1c4066@toco-domains.de>

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In message <3ca96b45-44d9-34b4-b48e-b49c1f1c4066@toco-domains.de>, 
Torsten Zueh
lsdorff writes:
> 
>
>
> On 01.02.19 15:47, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > On February 1, 2019 6:02:44 AM PST, Adam Weinberger <adamw@freebsd.org> wro
> te:
> >> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:58 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Adam Weinberger wrote:
> >>>> New Revision: 491810
> >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/491810
> >>>>
> >>>> Log:
> >>>>   Update vim to patchlevel 865
> >>>>
> >>>>   After discussion on freebsd-ports@, switch the default UI toolkit
> >>>>   from GTK2 to GTK3. There isn't a huge visual difference, so it's
> >>>>   more predicated on the idea that people are more likely to have
> >>>>   GTK3 already installed for other things.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, I believe it's more likely that people have GTK+2
> >> installed,
> >>> not 3.  That said, however, perhaps the best way out would be
> >> flavoring
> >>> the port so it offers both packages.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure that there's a huge benefit to offering multiple UI
> >> toolkit packages. There's not much difference between the GTK2 and the
> >> GTK3 interface. Perhaps I mischaracterized the situation; it is
> >> definitely correct to say that the discussion on freebsd-ports@
> >> revealed nearly unanimous agreement that people would prefer GTK3 be
> >> the default.
> >>
> >> # Adam
> > 
> > The big difference from a user's perspective is the scroll bar, specificall
> y middle button behavior.  IMO a regression. 
>
> After the switch to GTK-3 i have no scroll bar at all. "at all" means in
> kate, libreoffice, dolphin and all other kde/gtk-3 - applications. :D

Hmm. Firefox uses GTK-3. It has a scrollbar. If I play with it, as in 
put the cursor toward the middle of the slider, it does work. It's not 
as easy as Motif or GTK-2 are. I think this is an attempt by GUI 
developers to use one code base for mobile, notebook, and desktop. 
Compromises that are clunky at best.

Have you tried scrolling using the wheel? It might "magically" appear.


-- 
Cheers,
Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
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	The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.





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