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Date:      Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:30:23 +0000
From:      Baldur Gislason <baldur@foo.is>
To:        "Jesper Wallin" <z3l3zt@phucking.kicks-ass.org>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is PortSentry really safe to use?
Message-ID:  <02031521302303.03229@germanium>
In-Reply-To: <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org>
References:  <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org>

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That's right, you cannot rely on portsentry in "stealth scan" mode, since SYN 
packets are easily spoofable.

Baldur

On Friday 15 March 2002 21:07, you wrote:
> Hey..
>
> Lets say I want to hide all my services by changing the standard ports on
> all server and run PortSentry.. I used to run my system like that before
> but yesterday a friend of mine was talking about a little security issue..
>
> Lets say we run a system like that on www.blah.com, what happens if I run a
> traceroute on it and fake a portscan from his default gateway? Sure he can
> add the default gateway to the portsentry.ignore file but then I just take
> the box before that and the one before that and the... and so on..
>
> Isn't PortSentry more like a problem then a help then? I'm not sure if all
> fo this work but I know it's possible to fake portscans with softwares like
> "rain" and other "custom packets" programs.
>
>
> Jesper Wallin (aka Z3l3zT)
> "it's better to be a lame hacker than a hacked lamer"
>
>
>
>
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