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Date:      Thu, 8 Jun 2023 04:48:22 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com>
Cc:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Seemingly random nvme (nda) write error on new drive (retries exhausted)
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On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 4:35 AM Rebecca Cran <rebecca@bsdio.com> wrote:

> It's ZFS, using the default options when creating it via the FreeBSD
> installer so I presume TRIM is enabled. Without a reliable way to
> reproduce the error I'm not sure disabling TRIM will help at the moment.
>
> I don't think there's any newer firmware for it.
>

pci gen 4 has a highter error rate so that needs to be managed with
retries.  There's a whole protocol to do that which linux implements. I
suspect the time has come for us to do so too. There's some code floating
around I'll have to track down.

Warner

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> Rebecca Cran
>
>
> On 6/8/23 04:25, Tomek CEDRO wrote:
> > what filesystem? is TRIM enabled on that drive? have you tried
> > disabling trim? i had similar ssd related problem on samsung's ssd
> > long time ago that was related to trim. maybe drive firmware can be
> > updated too? :-)
> >
> > --
> > CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
>
>

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<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 8, 2023, 4:35 AM Rebecca Cran &lt;<a href="mailto:rebecca@bsdio.com">rebecca@bsdio.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It&#39;s ZFS, using the default options when creating it via the FreeBSD <br>
installer so I presume TRIM is enabled. Without a reliable way to <br>
reproduce the error I&#39;m not sure disabling TRIM will help at the moment.<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t think there&#39;s any newer firmware for it.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">pci gen 4 has a highter error rate so that needs to be managed with retries.  There&#39;s a whole protocol to do that which linux implements. I suspect the time has come for us to do so too. There&#39;s some code floating around I&#39;ll have to track down.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Warner</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Rebecca Cran<br>
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On 6/8/23 04:25, Tomek CEDRO wrote:<br>
&gt; what filesystem? is TRIM enabled on that drive? have you tried <br>
&gt; disabling trim? i had similar ssd related problem on samsung&#39;s ssd <br>
&gt; long time ago that was related to trim. maybe drive firmware can be <br>
&gt; updated too? :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, <a href="http://www.tomek.cedro.info" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.tomek.cedro.info</a><br>;
<br>
</blockquote></div></div></div>
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