Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:19:39 -0800 From: Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> To: Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule Message-ID: <23a4bd83-dca4-4e76-a513-9df6671d930d@nomadlogic.org> In-Reply-To: <20231116003030.GO1307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20231114203654.GB52320@FreeBSD.org> <ZVQNtKYYbf1OYu9O@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20231115022701.GM1307@FreeBSD.org> <ZVQ2n1UDGJtIpW3y@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20231115045231.GN1307@FreeBSD.org> <e86e5e6f-e986-410f-bdb2-8d4273f2815e@FreeBSD.org> <20231116003030.GO1307@FreeBSD.org>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------koVe1rSEAnHTQ7IVSnZIv0gx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: > The alternative would be to say nothing at all. > > Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is > a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above > context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights > delaying an official announcement, or for being "not open enough" when > there is silence from RE when a release does not meet its scheduled > announcement date. Glen I appreciate your transparency and the efforts you have done to keep everyone in the loop. I think people get excited about new releases, which is probably a good thing. IMHO i feel you've been striking a good balance. As an operator these updates are really helpful for me as it allows me to adjust timelines on my end for updating my fleet of servers. You and the RE team do an incredible job - and personally I am thankful for the caution and common sense you all bring to this complex process. Cheers, -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA --------------koVe1rSEAnHTQ7IVSnZIv0gx Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <br> <br> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:20231116003030.GO1307@FreeBSD.org"><span style="white-space: pre-wrap"> </span> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The alternative would be to say nothing at all. Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights delaying an official announcement, or for being "not open enough" when there is silence from RE when a release does not meet its scheduled announcement date. </pre> </blockquote> Glen I appreciate your transparency and the efforts you have done to keep everyone in the loop. I think people get excited about new releases, which is probably a good thing. IMHO i feel you've been striking a good balance.<br> <br> As an operator these updates are really helpful for me as it allows me to adjust timelines on my end for updating my fleet of servers. You and the RE team do an incredible job - and personally I am thankful for the caution and common sense you all bring to this complex process.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> -pete<span style="white-space: pre-wrap"> </span><br> <br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Pete Wright <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pete@nomadlogic.org">pete@nomadlogic.org</a> @nomadlogicLA</pre> </body> </html> --------------koVe1rSEAnHTQ7IVSnZIv0gx--
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