Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2023 19:19:39 -0800 From: Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> To: Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> Cc: The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule Message-ID: <23a4bd83-dca4-4e76-a513-9df6671d930d@nomadlogic.org> In-Reply-To: <20231116003030.GO1307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20231114203654.GB52320@FreeBSD.org> <ZVQNtKYYbf1OYu9O@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20231115022701.GM1307@FreeBSD.org> <ZVQ2n1UDGJtIpW3y@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> <20231115045231.GN1307@FreeBSD.org> <e86e5e6f-e986-410f-bdb2-8d4273f2815e@FreeBSD.org> <20231116003030.GO1307@FreeBSD.org>
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On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote:
> The alternative would be to say nothing at all.
>
> Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is
> a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above
> context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights
> delaying an official announcement, or for being "not open enough" when
> there is silence from RE when a release does not meet its scheduled
> announcement date.
Glen I appreciate your transparency and the efforts you have done to
keep everyone in the loop. I think people get excited about new
releases, which is probably a good thing. IMHO i feel you've been
striking a good balance.
As an operator these updates are really helpful for me as it allows me
to adjust timelines on my end for updating my fleet of servers. You and
the RE team do an incredible job - and personally I am thankful for the
caution and common sense you all bring to this complex process.
Cheers,
-pete
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Pete Wright
pete@nomadlogic.org
@nomadlogicLA
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The alternative would be to say nothing at all.
Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is
a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above
context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights
delaying an official announcement, or for being "not open enough" when
there is silence from RE when a release does not meet its scheduled
announcement date.
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Glen I appreciate your transparency and the efforts you have done to
keep everyone in the loop. I think people get excited about new
releases, which is probably a good thing. IMHO i feel you've been
striking a good balance.<br>
<br>
As an operator these updates are really helpful for me as it allows
me to adjust timelines on my end for updating my fleet of servers.
You and the RE team do an incredible job - and personally I am
thankful for the caution and common sense you all bring to this
complex process.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
-pete<span style="white-space: pre-wrap">
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Pete Wright
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pete@nomadlogic.org">pete@nomadlogic.org</a>
@nomadlogicLA</pre>
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