Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 18:22:16 -0700 (MST) From: Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> To: Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org> Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), phk@critter.dk.tfs.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Terry's changes (was Re: ufs lock panic in -current) Message-ID: <199704030122.SAA18652@rocky.mt.sri.com> In-Reply-To: <199704022302.QAA14842@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <18006.860021091@time.cdrom.com> <199704022302.QAA14842@phaeton.artisoft.com>
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> > > Pretty clearly, I'm going to have to redo them all, now that the > > > target has moved. I did this once already for the changes I already > > > sent to Julian. > > > > No, no, just upload them *now* please! .. > > Please, just take phk up > > on his offer and ** upload your changes *** so that we can maybe even > > get *past* this "2 year's worth of delay" you keep talking about. > > Don't make it 3 years through your own initiative now, eh? :-) ... > I'd rather not have you exercise "editorial license" to remove what > you see as "unrelated and useless changes" and what I see as necessary > support infrastructure for what I want to do next. So, the bottom line is that you aren't willing to submit changes to anyone unless they follow what you do with them. How is that any different from the GPL, which you claim is a bad thing. If your changes are indeed 'worthwhile', they'll stand on their own merit, even if they are indented and run through an obfuscator first. If they aren't, then they are worthless. > That is, I'd rather you didn't prevent me from doing what I want to > do next because you aren't willing to spend the time to find out > where I'm headed. As you are so fond of saying, even if we take *portions* of them into our tree, you are still better off since it means less work for you to integrate them. So, either you're willing to *submit* changes to the FreeBSD tree, or you're only willing to *control* the FreeBSD source tree (which you don't have control over and it bothers you to no end.) You're either a submitter or the kernel architect, and David's not going to give that up (nor does anyone want him to give it up.) > I am here to work on a platform which provides me the ability to > do further research. I am not here to be your code supermarket. Then quit bitching about FreeBSD not accepting your patches. You've been asked to provide them in an 'easy to vend' manner, and you've refused stating it's too much work. Then, PHK and others have stated, upload your whole store, and you're unwilling to do that either. There is no in-between ground, since neither piece-meal nor lock-stock-and-barrel *submissions* are acceptable to you. So, refrain from saying anything and you can unsubscribe yourself to the FreeBSD lists and go start TerryBSD where you have complete freedom to be your own kernel architect. However, if you change your mind, there are people willing to *integrate* your patches in the tree in some fashion if you allow them editorial privilege. That's the price you pay for being a submitter. Nate
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