Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 12:18:24 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." <hasty@rah.star-gate.com> To: Nate Williams <nate@sri.MT.net> Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Act Now ! Message-ID: <199603072018.MAA14436@rah.star-gate.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Mar 1996 13:03:33 MST." <199603072003.NAA01967@rocky.sri.MT.net>
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>>> Nate Williams said: > Amancio Hasty, Jr. writes: > > > [huge 'Voice On Net' article deleted] > > > > > > The point being, if use of the internet stopped being an experiemental > > > tool and became one tenth as popular as, say, the web browsers, the > > > internet would stop being useful as a communications medium. > > > > Voice is just one data type. One incurs far more bandwith with > > downloading images, files, etc... > > That's bursty bandwidth. Voice takes up bandwidth fairly at a fairly > constant rate. Voice does not demand constant bandwith on the internet;rather, the internet delivers or tries to deliver a constant rate. A subtle difference however a key one. You have to define "bursty" here is only a matter of time before large system distributions such as freebsd become widely available on the internet as a matter of fact IUMA with their huge mpeg distribution is a good example of a *huge* repository for the masses. > > By far the worst Internet polluter has got to be those zillions > > of Win95 users and AT&T now providing Internet services. > > No, they aren't 'polluting' the Internet any more than you are, and in > actuality they are using up much less BW than you are. However, there > are lots more of them. Okay, they are not polluters no more than voice oriented apps. My point is that all of the sudden we are dumping a huge user base into the Internet and that we should be more concerned as to how to support them rather than voice or video which represents a tiny fraction of the user base. So how come we are not hearing a big complain about the new rapidly emerging user base??? > > One would hope that if AT&T is going to provide Internet Services that > > they can also support their own infrastructure which happens to support > > much of the Internet backbone infra structure. > > Why should you deserve any more BW on the backbone than a new user like > my father? Just because you were there first doesn't mean he has as > much right to use video/audio tools as you do. The gating factor today is how much am I willing to pay for my bandwith 8) > > The Internet is not a real-time delivery network any attempt to > > massively use it as such will just simply fail. People can tolerate > > slight delays on ftp packets, or downloading images but when it comes > > to sound and to a lesser extent live video they get quickly irritated. > > So should we expect the MBONE to go away since it's neither feasible nor > useful to the general public? The MBONE is feasible and is probably the only generally available mechanism to deploy audio / video. If you are interested more on the MBONE please do a net search on the topic . Regards, Amancio
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