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Date:      Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:55:27 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Vallo Kallaste <vallo@matti.ee>
Cc:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Vinum (was: RAID)
Message-ID:  <20000906085527.D21113@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000905115126.A14470@myhakas.matti.ee>; from vallo@matti.ee on Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:51:26AM %2B0200
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On Tuesday,  5 September 2000 at 11:51:26 +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:47:02PM -0400, Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks!  I have a test system I will play with for a while before
>> deploying. BTW, is vinum in theory and practice as stable on ata drives as
>> on SCSI ?
>
> I spent a week lately trying out vinum with five ATA disks. The mobo had
> ATA-100 capability, so two drives did run at ATA-100, the other ones at
> ATA-66 (two Promise controllers). I pushed the RAID-5 quite hard with
> continous parallel buildworld, two-days running postmark and bonnie++,
> all at the same time. Had no problems, it seems really solid now. The
> disks were IBM DTLA type, 15G.

FWIW, the German magazine recently published a comparison of 331 disk
drives (issue 16/00).  The top performing IDE drive was the IBM DTLA
307030 (30 GB), with a weighted result of 20.7 MB/s.  Only one SCSI
drive exceeded this value.  I don't see a 15 GB DTLA drive in the
list, the smallest is 19 GB, but it only did 13.9 MB/s.  Note that the
benchmark is probably flawed: the tests found an average positioning
time of 11.0 ms for the DTLA 307030, compared to as low as 7.2 ms for
SCSI drives (IBM DDYS).  If these times seem slow to you, c't measures
positioning time differently from the manufacturers: they measure the
average over the whole disk, while manufacturers measure the average
over the first 504 MB (!).

Greg
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