Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 01:15:58 +0300 From: Vadim Goncharov <vadimnuclight@gmail.com> To: Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Cc: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Deprecation of i386 and 32-bit powerpc for 15.0 Message-ID: <20250621011558.27bd8276@nuclight.lan> In-Reply-To: <20250621040929.01a15d778e1862894e652939@dec.sakura.ne.jp> References: <3e998e81-0c3e-4b9a-8bcd-44b9cf70b6d1@FreeBSD.org> <20250620174015.4D241202@slippy.cwsent.com> <aFWih-I5dyPOIaB2@kib.kiev.ua> <20250621040929.01a15d778e1862894e652939@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 04:09:29 +0900 Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> wrote: > > > > - ~6 months after branching (BSDCan 2026 devsummit): > > > > > > > > - evaluate how stable/14 has been fairing (are MFCs breaking > > > > deprecated platforms) (note that stable/13 will be EOL at this > > > > point) > > > > > > > > - if all is smooth, start removing code from main for i386 and > > > > powerpc kernels as well as any powerpc userspace code not > > > > required for lib32 > > > > > > When can we expect lib32 removal? > > Hopefully never. > > Maybe this could puzzle more persons. > > IIUC, lib32 is for running 32bit apps on 64bit platform, which is NOT > planned for removal. > > What is going to be deprecated is 32bit bare-metal hardwares supports > for i386 and 32bit PowerPC, which never runs on 64bit modes. Does that mean that support for 32-bit builds for virtual machines (that's important because they use less memory -> buy cheaper, especially when lots of them) will be continued after 2030 ? -- WBR, @nuclighthelp
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