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Date:      Wed, 24 Jul 1996 17:04:37 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        troyc@sandy.merix.com (Troy Curtiss)
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Be goes FreeBSD :-)
Message-ID:  <199607250004.RAA20509@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <troyc-9606212036.AA000118664@sandy> from "Troy Curtiss" at Jul 21, 96 01:36:11 pm

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> As Thomas Graichen wisely stated:
> > wow:
> > 
> > graichen@mordillo:~> telnet www.be.com
> > Trying 140.174.204.94...
> > Connected to www.be.com.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > 
> >    FreeBSD (www.be.com) (ttyp0)
> > 
> > login: 
> > 
> 
> So.... who's gonna port FreeBSD over to the Be-Box, it looks
> like they already know who we are :)  (Terry??)  Check out
> http://www.be.com  , looks like a really cool chunk of hardware
> to do SMP on PPC using BSD ;)


I have a developer ID from Be, Inc., and have had email exchanges
with Jean Louis Gassee about a BSD port; they are all for it.

One of the big issues on the port is cross tools and boot capture;
if you are on their "Be Developer News" mailing list, then you
have seen the recent posting (1 or 2 weeks ago) to the news list
on "how to write boot code".

Another big issue that the second 603 is in place of an L2 cache.
This means the cache coherency model is MEI instead of MESI.  The
current SMP work is not sufficiently abstracted from the Intel
model to let a port happen.  This was really hanging out there
based on single processor startup.  Unfortunately, no one seems
to want to go for a HAL to aid portability in the first place,
and an SMP HAL is harder than a UP HAL because you must abstract
kernel entrancy interfaces and generalize them.

The final big issue is that they are using Apple's object file
format for their binaries.

There is a Linux port in progress -- you can download the boot disk
from the www.linuxppc.com web site.

Be has basically agreed to support a port; I just have not had time
to follow it up adequately (by buying a machine at the developer
discount).  My real work has been taking a lot of time lately, and
the Motorolla PPC using the PPCBug firmware has been a bear, and
I'm comitted to that before any other ports.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
---
Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
or previous employers.



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