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Date:      15 Mar 2002 13:37:00 -0800
From:      Mark Foster <mdf@enic.cc>
To:        Jesper Wallin <z3l3zt@phucking.kicks-ass.org>
Cc:        Baldur Gislason <baldur@foo.is>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is PortSentry really safe to use?
Message-ID:  <1016228221.10601.69.camel@smokey.lan.enic.cc>
In-Reply-To: <02031521302303.03229@germanium>
References:  <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org>  <02031521302303.03229@germanium>

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This attack (spoofing) can be circumvented by using ingress filtering on
your router or firewall.

On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 13:30, Baldur Gislason wrote:
> That's right, you cannot rely on portsentry in "stealth scan" mode, since SYN 
> packets are easily spoofable.
> 
> Baldur
> 
> On Friday 15 March 2002 21:07, you wrote:
> > Hey..
> >
> > Lets say I want to hide all my services by changing the standard ports on
> > all server and run PortSentry.. I used to run my system like that before
> > but yesterday a friend of mine was talking about a little security issue..
> >
> > Lets say we run a system like that on www.blah.com, what happens if I run a
> > traceroute on it and fake a portscan from his default gateway? Sure he can
> > add the default gateway to the portsentry.ignore file but then I just take
> > the box before that and the one before that and the... and so on..
> >
> > Isn't PortSentry more like a problem then a help then? I'm not sure if all
> > fo this work but I know it's possible to fake portscans with softwares like
> > "rain" and other "custom packets" programs.
> >
> >
> > Jesper Wallin (aka Z3l3zT)
> > "it's better to be a lame hacker than a hacked lamer"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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