Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2020 00:32:14 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> To: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> Cc: Stefan Esser <se@freebsd.org>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r367280 - head/lib/libc/gen Message-ID: <20201102223214.GO2654@kib.kiev.ua> In-Reply-To: <20201102232215.3ae253e0478791a3261d1dd1@bidouilliste.com> References: <202011021848.0A2Im7Kx098921@repo.freebsd.org> <CAPjTQNGoy_%2BNc=VvbC=9oNOf_FG4oM0XNaHv%2Bq5oDsvpngSUOQ@mail.gmail.com> <338fdfbb-6fad-0e44-5df6-b5a1c38d3e4f@freebsd.org> <20201102224907.401c9200dffba42cab827b2d@bidouilliste.com> <20201102221039.GN2654@kib.kiev.ua> <20201102232215.3ae253e0478791a3261d1dd1@bidouilliste.com>
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On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 11:22:15PM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 00:10:39 +0200 > Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 10:49:07PM +0100, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > I think that the first question we want to ask is : Do we want to > > > support LOCALBASE being different than /usr/local > > > I honestly don't see any advantages of making it !=/usr/local/ and > > > before we start putting a lot of new/useless(for I guess 99% of our > > > user base) in the tree we should here why people are using /usr/pkg or > > > whatever weird location. > > > If they have some good argument, then we should proceed further. > > > > I would be delighted to be able to install _and use_ two independent > > set of packages from the same base system install. Without recursing > > to jails, X forwarding, etc. > > > > In fact I would like to use /usr/local and e.g /usr/local-i386 on amd64 > > machine. I am fine with me building both of them in my instance of > > poudriere. > > > > But indeed I am not sure if this worth the effort of many people, for many > > hours. If it puts too high burden on everybody, then it is not a good > > feature. Otherwise, it is very convenient in some situations. > > I understand this situation but I think that the best way for you do > do that is to use pkg install -r /path/to/my/i386/packages > > Since you will need to tweak you PATH variable to start applications > installed in /usr/local-i386 anyway it's not too much to tweak that to > the pkg path for your i386 repo. > > The "downside" of using this method is that you will have > a /usr/local/ under the /path/to/my/i386/packages. > The "upside" of using this method is that you would be able to use the > same i386 packages on a native i386 install and they would install > in /usr/local/ (so no tweaking here). If I can already use them from non-/usr/local prefix, then it is great news (for me). But I have a reason to doubt. For instance, a lot of applications are configured at build time to look for /usr/local. Like, gcc with /usr/local/lib/gcc/<version>, and binutils, which are actually one of the main use case for me. So I believe that pkg install -r requires chroot/jail for the result to work.
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