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Date:      Thu, 16 Nov 2023 03:31:08 +0000
From:      Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>
To:        Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule
Message-ID:  <20231116033108.GP1307@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <23a4bd83-dca4-4e76-a513-9df6671d930d@nomadlogic.org>
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On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 07:19:39PM -0800, Pete Wright wrote:
>=20
>=20
> On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote:
> > The alternative would be to say nothing at all.
> >=20
> > Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain.  It is
> > a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above
> > context.  We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights
> > delaying an official announcement, or for being "not open enough" when
> > there is silence from RE when a release does not meet its scheduled
> > announcement date.
> Glen I appreciate your transparency and the efforts you have done to keep
> everyone in the loop.=A0 I think people get excited about new releases, w=
hich is
> probably a good thing.=A0 IMHO i feel you've been striking a good balance.
>=20
> As an operator these updates are really helpful for me as it allows me to
> adjust timelines on my end for updating my fleet of servers. You and the =
RE
> team do an incredible job - and personally I am thankful for the caution =
and
> common sense you all bring to this complex process.
>=20

Thank you very much, Pete, for your email on this.  It is appreciated by
all of us involved in FreeBSD releases.

Best regards,

Glen


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