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Date:      Mon, 22 May 2000 11:33:49 +0200
From:      Udo Schweigert <ust@cert.siemens.de>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
Cc:        Shadi Fazelian <sh_fazelian@yahoo.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: please hellllllllllllp me!
Message-ID:  <20000522113349.A74728@alaska.cert.siemens.de>
In-Reply-To: <20000522025901.T28097@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:59:01AM -0700
References:  <20000522085452.23895.qmail@web4207.mail.yahoo.com> <20000522025901.T28097@fw.wintelcom.net>

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On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:59:01 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> * Shadi Fazelian <sh_fazelian@yahoo.com> [000522 02:31] wrote:
> > Hello.
> > please guide me:
> > 1- how I can see a hidden file (not dot file) and how
> > I can hidden a file ?
> >  my mean: I want make a file that ls -al can't see it.
> 
> impossible(*) afaik.
> 
> > 
> > 2- how I can write somthing in a file that nobody can
> > see them
> > my mean: in crontab adding some command that this is
> > hidden.
> 
> impossible(*) afaik.
> 
> > 
> > 3- how I can run somthing in background that ps can't
> > see it.
> 
> impossible(*) afaik.
> 
> > 
> > please guide me. hackeres attack my servers and I
> > don't know how he/she can.
> 
> (*) see: http://www.rootkit.com/
>     and: http://www.rootkit.com/whitepapers.shtml
> 

1- and 3- are possible, if the attacker can change the installed versions of
ls and ps to his own, compromised versions.

Regards

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