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Date:      Mon, 16 Jun 2025 13:20:00 -0400
From:      Kirill Orlov <slowdive@me.com>
To:        Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Jamie Landeg-Jones <jamie@catflap.org>, jgopensource@proton.me, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: A modern programming language for FreeBSD: Swift
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In-Reply-To: <aE_YwiEypfC2uQI_@kib.kiev.ua>
References:  <aE_YwiEypfC2uQI_@kib.kiev.ua>

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Sounds like its better to wait for Zig reaching its stable release rather than exploring options from a heavily greed-driven “organization”.


Regards,
-K.

> On Jun 16, 2025, at 04:42, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 12:35:19AM +0100, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote:
>> Jordan Gordeev <jgopensource@proton.me> wrote:
>> 
>>> The FreeBSD project can leap into the future by choosing a modern programming language to replace C, or continue living in the past, hoping that the rest of the world will do the same.
>> 
>> Not a good start to a "sales" pitch.
> 
> Perhaphs.
> 
> But I expected somewhat more mature inception of the contribution. The
> introduction for it is not great, but the work done could be. Having the
> swift ported is huge amount of work, and I see it as useful. We need it
> to have the system to be a good platform for all modern languages.
> 
> IMO Jamie deserves the gratefulness and encouragement for the work done,
> and not the naive sarcasm due to some missed wording.
> 



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