Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:12:20 -0500 From: Brian T.Schellenberger <bts@babbleon.org> To: Cliff Sarginson <cliff@raggedclown.net>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness Message-ID: <20020128151220.92F0A4032@i8k.babbleon.org> In-Reply-To: <20020128145517.GB1907@raggedclown.net> References: <20020127220923.B1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org> <20020128135643.GH33952@madman.nectar.cc> <20020128145517.GB1907@raggedclown.net>
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On Monday 28 January 2002 09:55 am, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 07:56:43AM -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote:
> > > Perhaps we are just too dumb.
> >
> > Or perhaps there has been no effective case made for a change.
>
> In your opinion.
I think there's more than an opinion at work here because . . .
> The case has been made, clearly and coherently.
But by definition not effectively if the change isn't actually going to be
made.
> In my opinion.
> Opinions are wonderful things.
> People hold onto them so dearly, and proclaim them so loudly :)
> It is clear that the current situation is a) satisfactory to the
> old-guard who don't want even the smallest detail changed and
> b)unsatisfactory to dumb newcomers who are asking that something
> makes sense (sense in the English Language).
Speaking as a sort of "nuetral bystander" who found the old way quirky but
understandable, I'd say that the new proposal *would* be more logical, but at
the same time it is always good to be careful about changing the definiation
of something within a minor release.
So why not put together a simple proposal with a justification and submit it
to, say, the security list or perhaps even the hackers list as a proposal for
FreeBSD 5.0?
And for 4.x some documentation clarification is surely in order. (Though I
must admit I found the current documentation adaquate for myself--the big
note in the kernel config file conveyed the situation to me sufficiently.)
Perhaps a note in /etc/defeaults/rc.conf or something?
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