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Date:      Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:26:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com>
To:        isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Binaries in Usenet (was: News...)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSI.3.93.970417171608.26558C-100000@sidhe.memra.com>
In-Reply-To: <33563A4E.7494CECB@denverweb.net>

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On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Blaine Minazzi wrote:

> I think our best defense is to be involved in the process preemptivly.
> If regulation is going to come, WHO do you want to be invlolved in
> actually writing the laws?
> Congressmen without a clue, or congressmen with some input from the
> industry?

It just so happens that I am on the board of directors of the ISP/C
http://www.ispc.org which is attempting to represent the interests of the
independent ISP industry. We are a non-profit member-run trade
association.

The reason I brought up this whole subject is that we do get tips
about what politicians and telcos are up to. Where we can we help to
explain how things REALLY are. But one of those tips recently was that
there is a move by some police forces to gather evidence in preparation
for laying charges. Of course, we can't be sure how accurate this is
but it stands to reason that sooner or later there will be a test case to
establish whether child pornography stored on an ISP's news server is
subject to the laws of the land or not.

My personal view happens to be that ISP's have good reason to get rid of
USENET binaries entirely because USENET is the most labor intensive task
most ISP's will undertake, consumes the most hardware and the most
bandwidth for the smallest benefits, i.e. the percentage of customers that
read news regularly is low.

Of course this is just my opinion. 

> Lets stay regulation free as long as possible, but, when they do turn
> their greedy eye
> at us, we need to be organized enough to have input, and make the
> regulations
> actually be to our benefit.  

It is hard to get ISP's organized. I don't know why people won't join a
trade association but so far it has been tough slogging. However the ISP/C
has made a lot of accomplishments in our first year and we do have 45-50
members and some nice member discount programs like the Livingston 
one announced this week. But the primary reason to join a trade
association is to be ready when government regulators decide to attack.

Michael Dillon                   -               Internet & ISP Consulting
Memra Software Inc.              -                  Fax: +1-250-546-3049
http://www.memra.com             -               E-mail: michael@memra.com




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