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Date:      Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:25:28 +0100
From:      Frank Leonhardt <freebsd-doc@fjl.co.uk>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Bhyve and Rocky Linux startup error
Message-ID:  <9c5f7dd5-566e-474f-9aa7-9d5abd94aee2@fjl.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <aKNEQwKiG9xp0nl4@mail.gfuzz.de>
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On 18/08/2025 16:18, Oliver Peter wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 01:16:42PM +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
>> bhyve -c 1 -m 1G -w -H \
> ...
> It's not FreeBSD, 1G isn't just enough:
>      https://docs.rockylinux.org/guides/minimum_hardware_requirements/#memory-ram

Good spot! Thanks.

"2 GB minimum (text-mode install)"

What the hell? That's systemd for you ;-)

I suspect this was someone being lazy and trying it on the smallest 
machine they had, and calling that the minimum. It will be interesting 
to find out when I can stop it faulting. I remember upgrading to 32Mb to 
run FreeBSD 4 and thinking it was getting out of hand. IIRC Unix Version 
7 ran in 64K (although 128K was better).

But seriously, this is crashing out on the bootloader as far as I can 
tell so unless the bootloader is written in Python or something, that's 
probably not the reason for the crash. It also borks on Hyper-V and I 
was speaking to some penguin enthusiast today and reckons his company 
has had trouble installing newer releases of Rocky. I may have to burn a 
CD-ROM and see if I can find a server with an actual CD drive. I think I 
have a few left.

Regards, Frank.


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/08/2025 16:18, Oliver Peter
      wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:aKNEQwKiG9xp0nl4@mail.gfuzz.de">
      <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 01:16:42PM +0100, Frank Leonhardt wrote:
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        <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">bhyve -c 1 -m 1G -w -H \
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It's not FreeBSD, 1G isn't just enough:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.rockylinux.org/guides/minimum_hardware_requirements/#memory-ram">https://docs.rockylinux.org/guides/minimum_hardware_requirements/#memory-ram</a>;
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    <p>Good spot! Thanks.<br>
    </p>
    <p>"2 GB minimum (text-mode install)"</p>
    <p>What the hell? That's systemd for you ;-)</p>
    <p>I suspect this was someone being lazy and trying it on the
      smallest machine they had, and calling that the minimum. It will
      be interesting to find out when I can stop it faulting. I remember
      upgrading to 32Mb to run FreeBSD 4 and thinking it was getting out
      of hand. IIRC Unix Version 7 ran in 64K (although 128K was
      better).<br>
    </p>
    <p>But seriously, this is crashing out on the bootloader as far as I
      can tell so unless the bootloader is written in Python or
      something, that's probably not the reason for the crash. It also
      borks on Hyper-V and I was speaking to some penguin enthusiast
      today and reckons his company has had trouble installing newer
      releases of Rocky. I may have to burn a CD-ROM and see if I can
      find a server with an actual CD drive. I think I have a few left.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Regards, Frank.</p>
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