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Date:      Thu, 3 Apr 1997 10:50:11 +0900 (JST)
From:      Michael Hancock <michaelh@cet.co.jp>
To:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@freebsd.org>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org, shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au
Subject:   Re: Let's stop breaking current for a couple of weeks.
Message-ID:  <Pine.SV4.3.95.970403104410.1421A-100000@parkplace.cet.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: <199704022357.BAA13237@vector.jhs.no_domain>

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update -dP -rRELENG_2_2

Get out of the way for little while.  We don't need the developers pushed
into making mistakes or stupid decisions.

Regards,


Mike Hancock

On Thu, 3 Apr 1997, Julian H. Stacey wrote:

> Subject was: Re: ufs lock panic in -current
> 
> Hi, Reference:
> > From: shocking@mailbox.uq.edu.au 
> > 
> > 	[The great FS patch saga deleted]
> > 
> > Dammit, just get the blasted thing in current, where we'll beat the bugs out 
> > of them. If you do this, I guarantee that Terry's email bill will drop by 50%
> -  
> > 8^) 8^). Besides, I want to see what all this transitive closure stuff looks 
> > like.
> > 
> > 	Stephen
> 
> _NO_ Thanks !  
> Have you heard the Chinese curse:   "May you live in interesting times"   ?
> We don't need _more_ interesting new bugs in current this week or next.
> 
> Like numerous others I dumped current & dropped back to a Release because
> I couldn't stand the recently constantly volatile broken current.
> Lite2 needs to go in, but as we've seen people asking
> other folks to sync other diffs to current, & getting the response
> ~"No. current is too volatile just now, wait till it calms down"~ .....
> 
> It's time to try for intervening periods of relative calm on current,
> between assualts by broken/untested/incomplete code;  for if current
> becomes continuous broken hell, it'll deter other contributions.
> 
> There've been a few "I survived a make world" claims lately .. but not many
> in a long time.  Current needs to be less unstable for a while, so refugees
> can return to it from their Release temporary havens.
> 
> If some people just want to view or publish odd bits of code in progress,
> web space does that, (EG I keep my add-ons & diffs in
> 	http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/src/src.html
> & maintain that copy with rdist, & applicability to src/ with a shell,
> & bits don't get offered for a commit until they're matured & proven benign :-)
> 
> Please, Let's NOT _deliberately commit more broken or untested code,
> unless the stuff is #ifdefed out, (or kernel optioned), or not linked in
> by default, so it doesn't wreck the current operating base & deter other
> people working in other unrelated current areas !
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Julian
> --
> Julian H. Stacey	jhs@freebsd.org  	http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/
> 




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