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Date:      Mon, 22 May 2000 12:04:37 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Omachonu Ogali <oogali@intranova.net>
To:        "Nguyen, Olivier T [AMSTA-AR-CCF-D]" <onguyen@pica.army.mil>
Cc:        'leegold' <goldtech@worldpost.com>, Thomas Good <tomg@mailhost.nrnet.org>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Users in NYC?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10005221204250.536-100000@hydrant.intranova.net>
In-Reply-To: <53EB67411602D211846900A0C9C7647A0784E972@mail3.pica.army.mil>

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I'm in Jersey also, Northeastern Jersey to be exact.

On Mon, 22 May 2000, Nguyen, Olivier T [AMSTA-AR-CCF-D] wrote:

> hi everyone
> i am a newbie to freebsd or *nix os.  If anyone here create a list for
> Newbie please let me in to.  i need hook up and learn from you all out there
> I am in New Jersey.  45 mins from NYC
> 
> Olivier
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: leegold [mailto:goldtech@worldpost.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 10:20 AM
> To: Thomas Good
> Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject: Re: Users in NYC?
> 
> 
> >snip....
> >Where are you folks located?
> 
> I'm in Brooklyn, Actually pretty near the Verrazano N. Bridge.
> Grew up in Queens.
> 
> > ...snip
> > I think a Free Unix User Group is preferable to FBSD only.  I love linux
> > and the guys on the other lists typically bash us linuxers.  It's rather
> > petty.  Anyway, no boundaries, right?
> 
> Right. As a matter of fact I'm seeing references to the fact that some linux
> software can run on fbsd w/just a little "prodding". One thing I'd like to
> talk about is the internet browser situation for fbsd. Is Netscape the only
> choice? I would tend to want to invsestigate a stable  ver. of navigator and
> use pine for mail - something like that(?). then there's always Opera. I've
> played w/it alot on w9x/nt w/mixed results.
> 
> > > slices, (vs partitions, waht's the difference - i'd really like to know_
> > >snip.........
> 
> My walnut creek cd's should be coming this week. I'm hearing alot about that
> dos partion you cite below. So you just make a small partiton at the "start"
> of the disk (dos needs to be 1st i assume), and load Ms-dos, or only would
> one fdisk/format it to fat16 and use the "sys" cmd to get he dos system
> files on there. I'd also need a boot manager of some kind too w/multiple
> OS's. Yeah this good -just what I need below - thanks btw,You didn't mention
> the swap - what's the "lowdown" on /swap?
> 
>  my experience with FBSD and AT&T Unix (which is where BSD got the slice
> > terminology) a partition is a section of the hard disk wherein an
> Operating
> > System resides.  That section is further subdivived into 'slices' wherein
> > major components of the filesystem (directory tree structure) reside.
> > That is:  On box1 I have a dos maintenance partition (where I keep a dos
> > command interpreter [command.com] and a boot loader).  Next up I have
> > a big partition where I keep FBSD.  These are two partitions.  Within the
> > FBSD partition I have some slices of differing sizes.  I follow std unix.
> > So I have a 'root' partition of 50 M.  This holds the kernel and
> sysinstall
> > (both in /stand) and some other goodies.  But it is small.  Then I have
> > a slice of 20 M that is my 'mount point' for the /var directory, so named
> > as its contents are 'variable'.  I dislike strongly FBSD's sizing scheme
> > that makes this slice so tiny because I move large database files around
> > using UUCP (unix to unix copy) and /var fills up too easily...
> > Anyway, my third slice on the FBSD partition is /usr.  This is a huge
> slice.
> > Why? All of the code used by ordinary users goes here, as do the home
> directories.
> > /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, and /usr/home can become gigantic.  So, this
> > slice is set to 1G on the machine I'm describing.
> > I did not choose this sizing scheme, I let FBSD do it.  If I were to do it
> > again I would shrink /usr a bit in favour of /var to give myself less
> > headaches (I'm a DBA and need the space for my code and data).
> 
> > > All the tutorials assume unix sysadmin knowledge - that's a stone cold
> fact.
> 
> Sorry, my statement there is a little strong. There is some good intro
> documentation on freebsd and unix in general out there -i'm getting alot of
> links together on this.
> 
> > > > Anyway i'm totally for the FBSD newbie
> > > > group, just let me know when!
> >
> > yes, let's try to get this going...BTW, feel free to send me questions
> > and I will try to help.  I'd suggest you do it offline tho so we don't
> > get scolded for using a list designed for non-technical discussion to
> > do tech talk.
> 
> Great. Thanks.
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
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