Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:08:24 -0400 From: "Christopher T. Jewett" <ctjewett@zdnetonebox.com> To: Stuart Krivis <stuart@krivis.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The desktop apathy Message-ID: <20010601150824.KOGF18323.mta09.onebox.com@onebox.com>
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --1BoxPartBoundary99140810428204991408104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know it's OOP, but does anyone know where I could get a copy of Nextstep/Openstep? I've looked for some sort of software archive that might sell the original box for it, or something, but it seems like everything is gone. As an OS enthusiast, I've always been interested in Next. Anyone here be willing to part with their copy for $$ or send me a copy? :-) I know there's WindowMaker, GNUstep, etc, but it's not the same as the complete OS experience. Thanks! Chris ---- Stuart Krivis <stuart@krivis.com> wrote: > > > --On Sunday, May 27, 2001 12:18:33 -0700 Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com> > > wrote: > > > > Apple can't afford to do that, and a lot of their Carbon and Cocoa > > framework is all about providing bridgework for their classic OS > 9 > > customer base. If you write an application to the Carbon API, for > > example, it will run on both older and newer Macs. That's extremely > > I am not completely thrilled with OS X. The GUI is not as good in some > ways > as NeXT/OPENSTEP IMO. But I found OPENSTEP to be an extremely elegant > OS. > It was no longer modern, but it still was ahead of some other systems > in > some areas. > > Aqua is good, but it seems a bit confused. They didn't want to completely > > alienate their loyal MacOS userbase, so they Macified NS/OS. They also > > wanted to keep some of the good features of NS/OS. Unfortunately, the > > overall concept of the Aqua GUI isn't quite there yet. > > Classic/Carbon/Cocoa: I'm glad I have the ability to run some Classic > apps. > Carbon? I know why they did it, but Carbon sucks. Cocoa is very nice, > but > they need to put back some things they took out. :-) > > This also means that you have 3 different subsets of the GUI functionality. > > It's a pain to have to deal with 3 ways of doing things. > > > > their AppBuilder stuff sometime and see how you can connect stuff > > graphically to ObjectiveC classes. Very powerful. > > This was always NeXT's biggest draw. It was a wonderful developer's > > platform. I know people who will talk for hours about how great it > was. > "Insanely great." > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com --1BoxPartBoundary99140810428204991408104 Content-type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Description: vCard for Christopher Jewett YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCnZlcnNpb246My4wDQpGTjpDaHJpc3RvcGhlciAgSmV3ZXR0DQpOOkpl d2V0dDtDaHJpc3RvcGhlciA7OzsNCkFEUjo7OzM2MjQgTmlhZ2FyYSBTdHJlZXQ7V2F5bmU7 TUk7NDgxODQtMTk1ODs7DQpFTUFJTDtUWVBFPWludGVybmV0OmN0amV3ZXR0QHpkbmV0b25l Ym94LmNvbQ0KVEVMO1RZUEU9dm9pY2UsZmF4LHByZWYsbXNnOig0MTUpIDQzMC0yMTYxIHgx MjUwDQpURUw7VFlQRT12b2ljZSxob21lOig3MzQpIDcyOS0yNjIwDQpURUw7VFlQRT12b2lj ZSx3b3JrOigyNDgpIDMyNC00NDU4eDEzOA0KVEVMO1RZUEU9cGFnZXI6KDczNCkgNTA0LTU1 ODYNClVSTDpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmthbnR1cy5jb20NCmVuZDp2Y2FyZA0K --1BoxPartBoundary99140810428204991408104-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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