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Date:      Mon, 6 Jul 1998 15:12:33 -0500 (EST)
From:      P Lynch <lynch@rush.net>
To:        Gary Kline <kline@tera.com>
Cc:        wes@softweyr.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Beginning user's OS (was: Here is a really odd question!!!)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.980706151133.12461E-100000@cygnus.rush.net>
In-Reply-To: <199807051631.JAA24351@athena.tera.com>

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Gary, found it, its at http://http.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh, its a logo
interpreter written by Brian Harvey.

and its pretty good =)

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Pat Lynch						lynch@rush.net
Systems Administrator					Rush Networking
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On Sun, 5 Jul 1998, Gary Kline wrote:

> According to P Lynch:
> > I had actually found a good logo interpreter, but I can't remember where
> > it is now......
> > 
> > it was like one of those things...."Wow, I remember LOGO, I wanna play
> > with this some more"
> > 
> > when I was in grammar school, they taught the computer classes with logo,
> > it got to the point some of us were actually doing simplistic animations
> > with it. it might take me a few days to find, but I'll post it when I find
> > it
> > 
> > ___________________________________________________________________________
> > 
> > Pat Lynch						lynch@rush.net
> > Systems Administrator					Rush Networking
> > ___________________________________________________________________________
> > 
> > On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Wes Peters wrote:
> > 
> > > My hidden microphone recorded Gary Kline (kline@tera.com) saying:
> > > 
> > > % 	I'm watching this discussion with considerable interest
> > > % 	since my 32-month-old daughter is very interested in my
> > > % 	computer.  So far she's learned virtually all the ASCII
> > > % 	character set, and in another few years I think that 
> > > % 	she will be ready for much more.  
> > > % 
> > > % 	What's the consensus on BASIC? Or FORTRAN?  xcoral has 
> > > % 	a C interpreter that could be broken out... . 
> > > % 
> > > % 	Bright children really do absorb things quickly; just 
> > > % 	how quickly has amazed me no end!
> > > 
> > > My daughter is 27 months old next week, and is already a skilled computer 
> > > user.  She has 3 programs on CD-ROM of her own, and gets another one every 2 
> > > or 3 months.  She can load the CD herself, and has become quite proficient at 
> > > using the keyboard-driven programs.
> > > 
> > > We bought her first, called "Baby Rom," last fall when she was 18 months old.  
> > > She learned the entire alphabet in 9 weeks, and the numbers 1-9 in another 2 
> > > weeks.
> > > 
> > > Since then, we've added the Fisher-Price Barnyard CD.  She can now tell you 
> > > what kinds of food all of the common barnyard animals eat, how plants grow 
> > > from seeds, and the names of the common barnyard animals and their babies.
> > > 
> > > She's still not quite "getting" the use of the mouse, though she's willing to 
> > > try.  She enjoys typing and identifying the letters she makes, and can type 
> > > any letter you ask her to.
> > > 
> > > I think I'll wait till after her third birthday, then find a good Logo 
> > > implementation.  If there isn't one already, it shouldn't be too difficult to 
> > > create one, it's a pretty simple language.  Anyone around here have a 
> > > yacc-able grammer for Logo?
> > > 
> > > --
> > >        "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
> > > 
> > > Wes Peters                                                 Softweyr LLC
> > > http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr                      wes@softweyr.com           
> > > 
> 
> 	About the only reason we bought a DOS box was that it was
> 	the only means of running the educational CD's.  
> 
> 	--I haven't seen the  Fisher-Price CD's yet, thanks for the
> 	tip, Wes.  There are scores of these for young and older 
> 	children, but which are good (or better) and which not is
> 	one those cosmic mysteries.  ...Or then again, I just may
> 	not have found the right magazine(s).
> 
> 	Whenever you find LOGO for FBSD, I'd like to check it out,
> 	Pat.  I heard of it years ago, but that's it.  It'd be nice
> 	to have some tools to cobble together an environment that 
> 	Allyson could play with on this platform.  Not be totally
> 	infected by dos.
> 
> 	thanks, people,
> 
> 	gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
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