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Date:      Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:23:45 +0200
From:      Jille <jille@quis.cx>
To:        Kostik Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: chmod of some pidfiles
Message-ID:  <4805FDE1.4010206@quis.cx>
In-Reply-To: <20080416131902.GU18958@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>
References:  <4805FB23.4030600@quis.cx> <20080416131902.GU18958@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua>

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Can you flock a file that is readonly for your user ?
It doesn't make sense, it would allow a lot of (local) Denial of 
Services, I think ?

Kostik Belousov schreef:
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 03:12:03PM +0200, Jille wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Today I found out some pidfiles of 'system daemons', have a 'weird' chmod.
>>
>> [quis@istud ~]$ ls -l /var/run/cron.pid
>> -rw-------  1 root  wheel  4 Mar  1 19:25 /var/run/cron.pid
>>
>> Can somebody tell me why it is 0600 ?
>> I don't think it will harm if it is 0644 ?
>>
>> I think this is only useful if the security.bsd.see_other_uids sysctl is 
>> set to 0.
> 
> They are 0600 so that the advisory locking works reliably on them.
> More details:
> the daemons flock() the pidfile to indicate that it is alive. Any other
> process may lock the file that can be opened for reading. Having more
> permissive mode would allow anybody to lock the pidfile, falsely indicating
> that the daemon is still alive, while it in fact died.



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