Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:39:27 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: marino@freebsd.org Cc: Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Boris Samorodov <bsam@passap.ru>, "ports@FreeBSD.org Ports" <ports@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Subscription for committer Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1612192223470.18028@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <23944cf2-852b-ef5b-7837-dfb084c2f32d@marino.st> References: <b21222a1-4940-1a44-0693-8c7803798a58@marino.st> <20161217193514.GA22107@lonesome.com> <ef894560-2bf7-919d-5de2-dd92c9bfe476@marino.st> <cffaad8d-705c-de7a-1087-3dfb2f1c590c@passap.ru> <dfd5d40b-a1e6-1fdc-d55c-0f133e715915@marino.st> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1612191629070.94020@wonkity.com> <c8521390-3d71-e720-d59b-e052524beed3@marino.st> <20161220022257.GA30196@lonesome.com> <23944cf2-852b-ef5b-7837-dfb084c2f32d@marino.st>
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2016, John Marino wrote: > On 12/19/2016 20:22, Mark Linimon wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 07:07:06PM -0600, John Marino wrote: >>> It's a natural reaction to stop attempting to contribute when previous >>> contributions don't get "attention they deserve". >> >> Which some people (including me) see as odds with: >> >>> the impression that portmaster is officially recommended [has] to be >>> stamped out >> >> People tend to put off working on topics that include "demands". >> >> It's just human nature. >> >> Plus, there are thousands of other PRs to work on that don't involve such >> charged language. Working on those is more rewarding and less frustrating. > > It was decided that any implied recommendation for portupgrade and portmaster > in FreeBSD documentation has to be removed. Obviously there is some disagreement on this point, as this long, multiply-broken, renamed thread has shown. > The docs people are aware of the decision and are charged to implement > it. As volunteers, committers are free to choose the work they want to do. > It's not "my" demand. If valid PRs are in a moving queue, fine. If > valid PRs are being conveniently and intentionally forgotten, I would > say that's not fine. There is no queue. Volunteers choose the work they want to do. > and mcl: I challenge you to identify *ANY* offputting language in PR 214679. > You can't just imply that it exists when it doesn't. There has been plenty of off-putting language outside of that PR referring back to it, including some a few lines above. These are far beyond demotivational. More of the same will not have a different effect. My apologies for extending this already too-long thread.
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