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Date:      Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:00:47 +0300
From:      Niki Denev <nike_d@cytexbg.com>
To:        Ivan Voras <ivoras@geri.cc.fer.hr>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: On schedulers
Message-ID:  <46B7298F.2030804@cytexbg.com>
In-Reply-To: <20070805204321.H43187@geri.cc.fer.hr>
References:  <f8o49l$sd1$1@sea.gmane.org> <46B1C69D.6070503@cytexbg.com>	<20070802181239.O561@10.0.0.1> <20070803034628.U561@10.0.0.1> <20070805204321.H43187@geri.cc.fer.hr>

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Ivan Voras wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Jeff Roberson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Jeff Roberson wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Niki Denev wrote:
>>>
>>>> Both idle and glxgears are run as normal user.
>>>
>>> Can you tell me what % cpu is going to each process during this 
>>> time? These results are surprising.  For workloads like this ULE 
>>> should essentially implement a 'fair' scheduling policy.  However, 
>>> so should 4BSD.  So I'm not yet sure why the slowdown wouldn't be 
>>> relative to the number of running threads.  Also, 'vmstat 1' output 
>>> would be useful.
>
> I'm glad this discussion is happening, but:
>
> - I wasn't really interested in 3D performance, but mostly in if 
> there's theoretical modelling of how ULE should perform, and/or its 
> comparison to Linux (e.g. elaboration of what 'fair' means for ULE).
> - People who know (meaning those who work with or develop X11) say 
> that glxgears is awful for testing graphical performance. I don't know 
> exactly why is that, but I've seen widely varying results from 
> glxgears on related mailing lists that seem to confirm this. From 
> personal experience I've seen glxgears "topping out" with much idle 
> CPU left, both extremely high and extremely low results from it on 
> hardware that shouldn't behave like that, so I agree with this. Quake 
> should be much better for benchmarking :)
>
>

Sorry for my late reply, i was out of town for the weekend.

It seems that glxgears really does not give meaningfull results, because 
after reruning the same tests several times i got very different results.
I will try to run the same test again, but with quake this week if time 
permits. I'm thinking about testing it with and without 3d acceleration.


Best Regards,
Niki


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