Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:25:31 -0500 From: Jim Ohlstein <jim@ohlste.in> To: Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org>, Michael Gmelin <grembo@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact? Message-ID: <785184f2-35d9-ff45-dbaf-4437da9d0cc3@ohlste.in> In-Reply-To: <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org> References: <CAGnMC6pK_6Mpr=5VUuGX7zCFzqse%2BJsguZK%2BGmDrkyX5cgXkkA@mail.gmail.com> <336aca05-3a85-5881-4c51-ea58d1d203a2@FreeBSD.org> <3FC190C8-2F60-4215-8BFB-A0C79FE04F17@freebsd.org> <930aa508-18e4-6951-7880-e7934a1be0bc@FreeBSD.org>
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Hello, On 02/14/2017 06:15 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: >>> On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> wrote: >>>> On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: >>>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports?view=revision&revision=433827 >>> I think that commit message combined with >>> https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is enough. >> The commit message basically says that he misbehaved once too often and the CoC defines what "misbehave" might mean. Not over the top transparent/detailed to be honest. > > Right, would you want an organization you volunteered for to drag your > name through the mud for some reason? I don't think it's our place (the > project) to say more than we already have publicly. Please drop this > before it gets out of hand. Discussing people personally/negatively in > a public forum is not appropriate. > John has posted on the FreeBSD forums[1] that he did nothing and that there is "[no] evidence of continued bad behavior", so this argument holds no water any longer. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending him. I have witnessed his nature publicly, and I have been on the receiving end here on the list and privately. However, he was an extremely active committer and at a time when PR's wait for committers, people complain that there aren't enough volunteers, and mentors are maxed out, perhaps a simple "trust us" (to use John's words) does not suffice. JMMHO of course. [1] https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/59705/#post-342589 -- Jim Ohlstein
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