Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:11:27 -0400 From: Paul Pathiakis <paul@pathiakis.com> To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Cc: Martin Cracauer <cracauer@cons.org>, Erich Dollansky <oceanare@pacific.net.sg>, Palle Girgensohn <girgen@pingpong.net>, Paul Pathiakis <ppathiakis@eagleaccess.com> Subject: Re: AMD or Intel? Message-ID: <200709101911.28469.paul@pathiakis.com> In-Reply-To: <20070910184621.GA77744@cons.org> References: <E6C9DBADAE3839B380B736D7@rambutan.pingpong.net> <46E55204.20905@eagleaccess.com> <20070910184621.GA77744@cons.org>
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On Monday 10 September 2007 14:46:21 Martin Cracauer wrote: > For integer workloads Intel's Core2-base Xeons outperforms K8 (the > old-school AMD64) by about 25-30% per clock per core. K10 seems to be > 5-15% faster than K8 for integer workloads (I hope to run my benchmark > suite on one thi week or weekend). > > However, tasks that use multiple cores and have threads on cores > communicate a lot see both AMD architectures close the gap. > > Paul Pathiakis wrote on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:17:40AM -0400: > > Be very, very careful in purchasing Core 2 Duo. There are major > > problems with the chip that have been documented across the board. > > These have been blown out of proportion by Theo. Can you point to a > demonstratable case with current Linux or BSD kernels? > Agreed. However, Matt Dillon also made statements as did a few EE types. The chip is complicated due to poor design and the need for backward compatibility. I believe several people over the years have said that if they dumped everything pre-Pentium (486 instructions and earlier), the instruction set and complexity could easily be halved. Honestly, could you imagine how energy efficient and fast these chips (from both) would be at that point? One of the things that I'm seeing that really is starting to show is the use of more layers of cache and their increases in size. This is the same stop gap method everyone uses when they've hit a wall. P.
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