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Date:      Mon, 1 May 2000 11:49:48 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc:        Randy Katz <fastpoint@ccsales.com>, Shawn Barnhart <swb@grasslake.net>, "questions@freebsd.org" <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>, ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: stop complaining about x11 please (was: Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!?)
Message-ID:  <20000501114948.J24573@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000501234432.A2998@physics.iisc.ernet.in>; from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in on Mon, May 01, 2000 at 11:44:32PM %2B0530
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* Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in> [000501 11:45] wrote:
> Alfred Perlstein said on May  1, 2000 at 11:30:38:
> > * Randy Katz <fastpoint@ccsales.com> [000501 11:21] wrote:
> > > Guys!!!
> > > 
> > > Oh come on, can't you try ./configure --help
> > > All the parameters are there....that is if you know how to cd to the source (src) directory...!!!
> > 
> > no, ports should handle this, and is quite capable of handling it,
> > if no one has this done by the weekend and it's ok with the ports
> > master I'll implement it myself.
> > 
> > I was very annoyed to see that mrtg pulled in python which pulled
> > in X11 and a lot of other huge items just because mrtg comes with
> > a single python script that I didn't want.
> > 
> > Ports are supposed to be easy and the way to avoid mucking with
> > terribly annoying configure scripts.
> 
> This is actually more general than x11 -- very often a program
> optionally depends on something else, ie the configure script would
> simply continue happily with that option disabled if it didn't find
> it, but the port insists on pulling in that dependency too. For
> instance the Qt/KDE port pulls in Mesa, but as far as I can see Mesa
> only affects some qt demos and a couple of screensavers in KDE. It
> would be nice if there were some kind of dialogue (or perhaps an
> environment variable or make option) to ask the user whether such port
> dependencies affecting only optional features should also be installed
> or just ignored. Right now one can only edit the port makefile to
> remove the dependency.

OK, someone add "PORTS_MINIMAL=yes" to my wishlist. :)

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
"I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."


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