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Date:      Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:29:09 +0930 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        pst@shockwave.com (Paul Traina)
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/x11/tk41 Makefile ports/x11/tk41/files Makefile.lib md5 ports/x11/tk41/patches patch-ab patch-ac patch
Message-ID:  <199707070659.QAA29505@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199707070649.XAA12547@precipice.shockwave.com> from Paul Traina at "Jul 6, 97 11:49:06 pm"

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Paul Traina stands accused of saying:
>   
>   I think that you're showing very poor judgement here; this isn't a
>   move that should be undertaken precipitately, or by someone with your
>   recorded antipathy to Tcl in general.
> 
> Myth control:
> (a) I'm the person who brought tcl 7.4 and 7.5 in as ports
>     in the first place and had been faithfully maintaining it.
>     If I hated tcl, I certainly wouldn't have put so much time
>     into making it useful under freebsd. (chuckle)

Then you've succeeded in confusing me greatly.  My apologies for the slur.

> (d) My intentions have been made quite clear to the entire core
>     team,  and I will not remove tcl from the source distribution
>     until >rough< consensus has been reached.

Ah.  Remember that discussions with core aren't echoed to the remainder
of the plebiscite; a few words to this effect would have done a lot for
my blood pressure.

Please note that I _do_ understand the issue regarding things like
Tcl that mutate between versions; my stance is not that any particular
version of Tcl/Perl/whatever is _the_ right one, merely that their
status as basic system tools should be recognised and respected.

> (Actually, that's a tiny lie -- PHK is demanding that I move perl4 out
>  to ports too, but I refused to do it until we nuke the perl system
>  utilities.)

Argh!  Now we have a secret fascist anti-bloat cabal.  Argh!

8)

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