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Date:      Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:25:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Jason Stone <jason@shalott.net>
To:        <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip
Message-ID:  <20020418191804.I50980-100000@walter>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020418200936.023fedd0@nospam.lariat.org>

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> >For any one "snapshot", be it a major.minor-RELEASE, or -RELEASE-pN,
> >have you - or anyone - any idea just how many snapshots would be required?
>
> One.
>
> >Some systems are IDE/ATAPI, others are SCSI, some are both, and some are
> >RAID. You want a snapshot kernel supporting all that, if yours is just
> >an internet gateway? What're the possible permutations of supported DASD?
>
> I'm afraid I don't understand. What are you talking about?

I think that the implication is that no one ever uses a "snapshot" because
everyone always compiles their own custom kernel, because GENERIC is never
appropriate for a production system.  Whether or not you agree is for you
to decide.

Can this discussion stop taking place on this list?  While you may or may
not agree that this aspect of release engineering needs fixing, I hope
that you will agree that this is only tangentially a security issue, and
that cluttering a list which people count on to be mostly brief
clarifications of important and immediate security issues is undesirable.

Maybe take it to -hackers?  Or create a new -relng list?


 -Jason

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 I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she's
 too young to have logged on yet.  Here's what I worry about.  I worry
 that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say "Daddy, where
 were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?"
	-- Mike Godwin

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