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Date:      Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:21:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Tom <tom@uniserve.com>
To:        Matt Thomas <matt@3am-software.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Which PCI Ethernet card is best for FreeBSD-current? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971002161025.24987M-100000@shell.uniserve.com>
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971002185741.0305e1c4@ranier.altavista-software.com>

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On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Matt Thomas wrote:

> At 02:20 PM 10/2/97 -0700, Tom wrote:
> >
> >On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >
> >> In message <9023.875816283@verdi.nethelp.no>, sthaug@nethelp.no writes:
> >> >> On the other hand, the only quad cards I know of are based
> >> >> on the DEC chip; I'll be trying out the Znyx quad card (I think) soon.
> >> >
> >> >We have the ZNYX 4-port 10 Mbps card, and the SMC 2-port 100 Mbps card
> >> >in a FreeBSD machine here. They work very well for us.
> >> 
> >> I have a machine with 4 of the ZNYX boards (16 ports total) doing the
> >> "collapsed backbone" thing.  Works like a charm, and in difference
> >> from a cisco that would cost 10 times as much, you can run tcpdump 
> >> and trafshow on it :-)
> >
> >  I would have liked to have been able to use a solution like that.
> >However, currently ethernet interfaces that do not have carrier/link
> >active, still show us UP.  I wish that loss of carrier/link would force
> >the interface into a DOWN state automatically.  I realize this would
> >require some driver changes.
> 
> FWIW, the ifmedia already supports this.  Depending on if the
> link is up, media will have IFM_ALIVE set or clear.

  But that won't translate into a UP or DOWN state?  Somehow gated gets
the interface states (via routing socket?).  How can I read that state
via a user-mode program?

  I think it would be great to add some indication to ifconfig to indicate
that the physical layer is up.

> -- 
> Matt Thomas               Internet:   matt@3am-software.com
> 3am Software Foundry      WWW URL:    http://www.3am-software.com/bio/matt.html
> Nashua, NH                Disclaimer: I disavow all knowledge of this message
> 

Tom




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