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Date:      Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:43:35 -0700
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arm@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: announcing the availability of packages for the Arm architecture
Message-ID:  <7D9E09AD-95C6-4DD5-9D47-9A04D950DB36@bsdimp.com>
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On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Tim Kientzle wrote:

> 
> On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Dave Hayes wrote:
> 
>> On 11/05/12 07:33, Tim Kientzle wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Dave Hayes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 10/30/12 07:18, Ian Lepore wrote:
>>>>> All in all, I have the impression that not many people "use" freebsd on
>>>>> arm at all.
>>>> 
>>>> Just getting to the point of "using" it is quite time intensive. I ran out of time trying to get my dreamplug to where I want it. These issues were in my way (this was some time ago, check the list for dates):
>>>> 
>>>> - install requires non-trivial patches and kernel config
>>> 
>>> There are a few people working on build systems to
>>> simplify this.  My scripts work pretty much "out-of-the-box"
>>> for RaspberryPi and BeagleBone now and should be easily
>>> extensible to other platforms.
>> 
>> Where are these scripts? I'd like to try them.
> 
> github.com/kientzle/freebsd-beaglebone
> 
>> Part of my problem is that I routinely build customized versions of FreeBSD for specific applications, so I don't like just using a canned script...I like to understand the process. 
> 
> Sounds like you are someone I really want feedback from then.
> I'm looking for ideas for how to make it easier to customize the
> results from these scripts.  (They have a few hooks for different
> kinds of customization but I need feedback to figure out if those
> hooks are sufficient.)
> 
> The key piece right now is a concept of "board" that
> encapsulates how to partition a disk image for a
> particular system and what boot bits it requires.

I'd love to see a bigger framework akin to NanoBSD that allows one to mix in the application with the board to produce an image customized for your needs.  zrouter does this a bit, as does Tim's scripts, but we aren't quite to where we need to be.

Warner



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