Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:43:35 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Tim Kientzle <tim@kientzle.com> Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Subject: Re: announcing the availability of packages for the Arm architecture Message-ID: <7D9E09AD-95C6-4DD5-9D47-9A04D950DB36@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <162A6F5A-8CC4-44DE-9B46-D9D6D8CC00CE@kientzle.com> References: <CANuCnH_pKuUPhYe-AQ6MpK_XXPSdpft5zhQzEjFBSpfWAPRqKA@mail.gmail.com> <1351606727.1120.17.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <5097263F.5090802@jetcafe.org> <1D4ECD72-D01D-48D3-B837-735176CC49D3@kientzle.com> <50983301.9040406@jetcafe.org> <162A6F5A-8CC4-44DE-9B46-D9D6D8CC00CE@kientzle.com>
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On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Tim Kientzle wrote: >=20 > On Nov 5, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: >=20 >> On 11/05/12 07:33, Tim Kientzle wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On 10/30/12 07:18, Ian Lepore wrote: >>>>> All in all, I have the impression that not many people "use" = freebsd on >>>>> arm at all. >>>>=20 >>>> Just getting to the point of "using" it is quite time intensive. I = ran out of time trying to get my dreamplug to where I want it. These = issues were in my way (this was some time ago, check the list for = dates): >>>>=20 >>>> - install requires non-trivial patches and kernel config >>>=20 >>> There are a few people working on build systems to >>> simplify this. My scripts work pretty much "out-of-the-box" >>> for RaspberryPi and BeagleBone now and should be easily >>> extensible to other platforms. >>=20 >> Where are these scripts? I'd like to try them. >=20 > github.com/kientzle/freebsd-beaglebone >=20 >> Part of my problem is that I routinely build customized versions of = FreeBSD for specific applications, so I don't like just using a canned = script...I like to understand the process.=20 >=20 > Sounds like you are someone I really want feedback from then. > I'm looking for ideas for how to make it easier to customize the > results from these scripts. (They have a few hooks for different > kinds of customization but I need feedback to figure out if those > hooks are sufficient.) >=20 > The key piece right now is a concept of "board" that > encapsulates how to partition a disk image for a > particular system and what boot bits it requires. I'd love to see a bigger framework akin to NanoBSD that allows one to = mix in the application with the board to produce an image customized for = your needs. zrouter does this a bit, as does Tim's scripts, but we = aren't quite to where we need to be. Warner
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