Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 06:26:51 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> To: George Danchev <danchev@spnet.net> Cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www/86970: The new web site look and feel is not FreeBSDish as we all know and love Message-ID: <20051007032651.GA1219@flame.pc> In-Reply-To: <200510061943.13663.danchev@spnet.net> References: <200510060816.j968Gm4f030207@freefall.freebsd.org> <200510061121.05894.danchev@spnet.net> <20051006140156.GA82130@flame.pc> <200510061943.13663.danchev@spnet.net>
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On 2005-10-06 19:43, George Danchev <danchev@spnet.net> wrote: >On Thursday 06 October 2005 17:01, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> only stating the fact that these are *YOUR* opinions, which you have >> *every* right to have but it should probably take a lot more than >> >> ``This sucks, fix it'' > > This is not what I said! > >> to get anything done :) Well, it was an over-simplification on my part, but the bulk of your post seemed to be of that tone. Sorry if that wasn'r really your intention... > It has already been said that the important links should stay on the > main page, not forcing people digging hard for stuff. Look at the old > site's left pane for example. These are the bullet lists links for > Platforms, Software, Documentation, Support, Bug Reports, Development > (at least) along with their submenus as links. Just one-click away - > clean, sane and simple. That's more like it! Suggestions for improvement are a nice thing. This is, in fact, how the web site *IS* developed :) Well, a long list of 2-level links may be nice if you are a 'hacker' type, who likes quickly skiiming through lists of links for the right one. It's so... early 90's for the rest of the world though. > Also my personal opinion is that the new site should have been placed > at freebsd.org/new and discussed to death before surprising people > unexpectedly, while the old one mentions about the prospective change > and link to how it would look at "Project News" (old's right pane) not > the other way around like to place the production one at old/ and > fixing new site bugs on the fly. There comes a point at the life of every project where things are no longer done the right way because it *is* the Right Way(TM), but only because ``this is what we have been doing for so long now''. At times like these, more discussion doesn't usually help at all :) Nevertheless, this sort of discussion (about the web site needing a face-lift) has been done again and again, and then again, and again a few months later. The mailing list archives contain a few nice monster-threads about it. Nobody who has been subscribed to freebsd-doc and freebsd-www has been 'surprised unexpectedly'. Moreover, more discussion wasn't going to help much at the point, until someone went away and really *DID* the face lift. And they did... Thankfully they did :)
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